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| Disappointingly has not made the England Squad.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Disappointingly has not made the England Squad.'"
out of interest, who of the squad is he better than?
England squad: John Bateman, Joe Burgess, Liam Farrell, Sean O'Loughlin (c), Matty Smith, George Williams (Wigan), Thomas Burgess (South Sydney Rabbitohs), Mike Cooper, Gareth Widdop (St George Illawarra), Leroy Cudjoe, Brett Ferres, Jermaine McGillvary (Huddersfield Giants), Ben Currie, Chris Hill, Ben Westwood (Warrington Wolves), Luke Gale (Castleford Tigers), James Graham (Canterbury Bulldogs), Ryan Hall, Zak Hardaker, Kallum Watkins (Leeds Rhinos), Josh Hodgson (Canberra Raiders), James Roby (St Helens), Sam Tomkins (NZ Warriors), Elliott Whitehead (Catalans Dragons).
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| Quote ="HullFC_1865"out of interest, who of the squad is he better than?
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All the front rowers apart from graham. No Walmsley ? Is he injured
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| Watts has been fantastic for us in the second half of the season particularly. There are some good choices in there, though. Perhaps more beneficial for us for him to have a full pre season here rather than risk injury under McNamara.
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| If Cuthbertson cant get into the squad then there is no chance for Liam Watts even though he had a good season.
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| Westermans been sh-ite since playing for england - we dont want the same to happen to Watts
As a side note not one player from FC or KR in the squad - truly shocking tbh
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| None of SL's bottom 5 are represented so in one sense not shocking at all.
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| ben currie and ben westwood. wtf?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"ben currie and ben westwood. wtf?'"
Currie's been good IMO, agree about Westwood though. Strange pick.
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| Maybe his previous antics counted against him too , he has had a decent season though.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"ben currie and ben westwood. wtf?'"
Exactly.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Westermans been sh-ite since playing for england - we dont want the same to happen to Watts
As a side note not one player from FC or KR in the squad - truly shocking tbh'"
Is it shocking that no Hull FC player made the squad? I would say that Watts making the squad would have been touch and go, a nice surprise if it had happened. Not sure anyone else was likely?
Not sure why you mentioned Hull KR.
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| He has had a hard season and played a lot of minutes and some games single handled leading the pack so I for one aren't bothered that he isn't playing as it will benefit us next season.As for the squad,what did people expect with Mc banana in charge,it's obvious golden balls will play FB and hardacker either left out or shunted to centre and picking Matty Smith is the biggest joke going.
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| i totally agree watts is far better than westwood and he should be in squad. westwood is not even average.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Is it shocking that no Hull FC player made the squad? I would say that Watts making the squad would have been touch and go, a nice surprise if it had happened. Not sure anyone else was likely?
Not sure why you mentioned Hull KR.'"
Shocking as neither team has raised one not at the rfl or Mcnamara
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| Unfortunate for him. Not for us.
To be fair by all accounts and what I've seen Taylor could of been in as well.
All boys in training fresh from the off with no chance of being injured in the tests is good for us. Big season for us and we need everybody from the off
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| Quote ="HullFC_1865"out of interest, who of the squad is he better than?
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Squad seems unbalanced with only 4 props, I would have thought he would have selected at least 5 that's why I think Watts may have had a chance. Graham, Hill and Burgess are nailed on. Not seen Cooper play in the NRL so I can't comment. Out of interest how has he played this season? What are his strengths?
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| Tom Burgess has been absolute gash for SS and Mike Cooper FFS! The absolute definition of average. Both players in because they play NRL.
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| Quote ="*1865*"Tom Burgess has been absolute gash for SS and Mike Cooper FFS! The absolute definition of average. Both players in because they play NRL.'"
Coopers been very good this year. Tom hasn't been gash at all.
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Coopers been very good this year. Tom hasn't been gash at all.'"
Cooper or Watts. Having seen both this season who would you pick?
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Coopers been very good this year. Tom hasn't been gash at all.'"
I said Cooper's been the best....of a pathetic front row. Tom's got in on name alone.
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| I reckon watts very unlucky not to be in. Behind hill and graham but I think better all round than cooper or tom burgess. Thought he was brilliant at magic weekend.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"Cooper or Watts. Having seen both this season who would you pick?'"
I'd have take both in all honesty. We're going quite light in the front row and it looks like Westwood will cover. Without Walmsley and George I'd have taken Taylor and Watts instead of Westwood and Currie.
But to answer your question, Cooper. Just.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I'd have take both in all honesty. We're going quite light in the front row and it looks like Westwood will cover. Without Walmsley and George I'd have taken Taylor and Watts instead of Westwood and Currie.
But to answer your question, Cooper. Just.'"
Not a prop but Heighington according to Sharks fans is playing well. What's your opinion on him?
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Coopers been very good this year. Tom hasn't been gash at all.'"
Tom was souths top metre man. Seemed to have really progressed.
Cooper was in the oz team of the week a few times I saw(stats based) think there was room in the squad for watts tho
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