yes that's hull fc next year, brill signings youngsters coming through maybe the coach a bit iffy but wat the h.ell am fed of reading how we are s.hite all the time and everybody giving there support up, So imo we will hit the heights next year ,COYH

Evening Adam.

Well I tried lol

It could happen. Spend the next 4 months bitching about a coach we can't afford to replace, or backing the club to a) optimise its resources and b) do the best with the resources it then has. We're all free to choose how and where we invest our energy.

Not seen as universally positive raps about incoming players as I have for Pritchard and Taylor BTW.

I don't buy the 'can't afford to replace' line anymore, he only has 1 year left on his deal. Unless we really are paying him silly money it is a drop in the ocean compared to what pass sales we stand to lose, or even just losing one minor shirt/short sponsor, the cost of renewing Yeaman's contract etc I don't deny that finances at the club are tighter than they have been for a good few years, but if we can't afford to pay off 1 year of an inexperienced coaches contract we may as well file for bankruptcy right now!

He's still here because Pearson won't admit he's again hired the wrong coach, until he swallows his pride and admits he's made a mistake it won't change.

If fans bail out when the club needs them, sure. Some people may feel a bit guilty withdrawing this support so it suits to downplay the consequences. Understandable if you are so inclined.

You're changing the topic, my answer was about whether the club can afford to pay off 1 year of Radford's salary in one go. I await your response...

No.

The club will be less able to afford payoffs, or anything else for that matter, if you don't renew your pass.
A simple concept that some people on here don't seem to be able to grasp.

Equally bringing in a respected coach would at least mean this years passholders would renew, and I feel would tempt some fans who have already drifted away to give it another go.

I can only repeat again that if the club was doing that badly financially they would not be bringing in the likes of Pritchard & Manu, and the signing on fees, rented houses etc that a new overseas signing entails. Don't believe everything Pearson tells you, he was peddling the same doom and gloom message last winter but there have been few if any noticeable cutbacks in the clubs spending.

Sure. When we're in Bradford's situation they'll be some moaning they don't want to watch Championship rugby yet passed up the opportunity to help avoid it. Oh well.

Except for our entire academy being merged of course, and the rumored staff redundancies.

... so the Academy merger isn't a financial decision after all.

(beat me to it.)

I thought the other thread was your last one?

Your self imposed exile lasted about three hours.

So where we finding the money for Pritchard's agent's fees and his signing on fee then? some coppers down the back of Pearson's sofa? As I have already stated I am well aware we aren't cash-rich at the moment, but I find it ridiculous to suggest we can't afford to pay off 1 year of Radford's salary when we will be amongst the lower paid SL coaches (and if he isn't then that is another matter!)

I'm going after today, so about 3 hours to go. Then you can all sit around slapping each other on the back and agreeing with one another, i'm sure it'll be an exciting read.

Correct. And as a fan you must also recognise how important your contribution is to its future.

I do, but there comes a point where you stop throwing good money after bad, I changed my mind and gave getting a pass another go last season and again its been very disappointing.

Pearson clearly stated in an interview that he won't change his mind about Radford no matter what the fans chant, protest etc so what other choice have I got but to vote with my feet?

Maybe the club should be asking themselves why large numbers of pass holders are not renewing. There's been loads of pass holders near me who I haven't seen since mid summer. Why is that?. Why would people not attend games they've already paid for?
Unfortunately for AP people won't respond to begging to renew anymore.
Ultimately, what drives attendances, sponsorship, merchandise etc, etc is the product on the pitch and people have had enough of what's been on offer.
There's some quality coming in, but is it in all the right areas?. No back up/interchange hooker. No specialist centre. Half backs still an issue.
Make or break in many ways next year. I hope LR comes good but I just can't see it.
Hope I'm wrong.

Unless we sign a " General " type of player we will not progress.

You always have a choice. We finished the regular season 7th (vs 10th? last year) have given youth a chance and landed some good recruitment. The club is in financial stress. If this is your moment to walk, so be it.

Need to perform on the pitch plain and simple, need to improve about the same percentage as we did this year and be closer to the top 4. Improving our home form is a must.

Plenty to look forward too next year and I hope the club don't let us down.

This would be my team to start the year if all fit.

Shaul
Naughton
Fonua
Logan
Talanoa/Micheals
Carlos T
Sneyd
Taylor
Houghton
Ellis
Mini
Pritchard
Westy

Manu
Watts
Washbrook/Abdul
Whiting

Winger and back up hooker undecided on. No Pryce as we need to try and build a long term halfback partnership.

The club doesn't really do listening. Part of the reason we are where we are.

I agree. The disengagement with the fans has been really noticeable in what should have been a special year for all of us.
That's why I believe the club begging us to renew won't work this year. The goodwill has been eroded.
The feeling of malaise is just so strong. We need more from AP then rallying calls and threats of what the SMC might do to us.

Ultimately we finished 8th, the record books will state 8th. 4 points behind 7th, and a massive 14 points off 4th.

Also you neglect to include that yes this season has been an improvement on last year, but it is still down on the 6th we achieved the two years prior to that. In terms of league finishes we have gone backwards under Radford (actual quality of performances i'd admit is less clear cut than the final year of Gentle's reign)