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| I was hoping to post on the Bradford match thread but yet again it's been locked due to the SAME posters . Please mods just ban them so we can continue to debate and it's spoiling it for the rest of us .
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Poor result but tbh I'm not exactly shocked by it as I/we have known our flaws as a team for a while now which I really believe have been addressed in signing proper half backs in Sneyd and pryce that will be the difference in a top 8 finish or not . Only three games left and then an end to this season that can't come quick enough and then roll 2015
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| Hopefully we can discuss the game here sensibly, without trolling and personal abuse.
That was pretty disappointing, by any measure. A few bright performances, most notably from the bench, but lack of cohesion, failure to capitalise on having the wind behind us first half, and beaten at speed of PTB for all but the last 20 minutes were not good enough. Flat again in attack, lack of runners.
Felt like a perfect representation of the whole season. Lack of mental steel and brains - I was calling for a drop goal at 12-0, had a feeling it would be close. OK, wouldn't have mattered but the sort of thing we never look like entertaining.
A pretty worrying effort in a game we should have been striving to deliver in. Compounded by Ellis saying we've "lacked real men", and Radford straight into chop and change mode post match. Blimey.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Hopefully we can discuss the game here sensibly, without trolling and personal abuse.
That was pretty disappointing, by any measure. A few bright performances, most notably from the bench, but lack of cohesion, failure to capitalise on having the wind behind us first half, and beaten at speed of PTB for all but the last 20 minutes were not good enough. Flat again in attack, lack of runners.
Felt like a perfect representation of the whole season. Lack of mental steel and brains - I was calling for a drop goal at 12-0, had a feeling it would be close. OK, wouldn't have mattered but the sort of thing we never look like entertaining.
A pretty worrying effort in a game we should have been striving to deliver in. Compounded by Ellis saying we've "lacked real men", and Radford straight into chop and change mode post match. Blimey.'"
Hopefully only people with a mental age greater than 8 will contribute Mrs B.
Your analysis is perfect and there are major questions to answer over this poor defeat.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Hopefully we can discuss the game here sensibly, without trolling and personal abuse.
That was pretty disappointing, by any measure. A few bright performances, most notably from the bench, but lack of cohesion, failure to capitalise on having the wind behind us first half, and beaten at speed of PTB for all but the last 20 minutes were not good enough. Flat again in attack, lack of runners.
Felt like a perfect representation of the whole season. Lack of mental steel and brains - I was calling for a drop goal at 12-0, had a feeling it would be close. OK, wouldn't have mattered but the sort of thing we never look like entertaining.
A pretty worrying effort in a game we should have been striving to deliver in. Compounded by Ellis saying we've "lacked real men", and Radford straight into chop and change mode post match. Blimey.'"
All we want is pride, and that appeared to be lacking, can only hope for better next season.
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| Sounds like Radford has had enough judging by the way he came a cross on the Radio . Confidence shot to bits .
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| Poor result but tbh I'm not exactly shocked by it as I/we have known our flaws as a team for a while now which I really believe have been addressed in signing proper half backs in Sneyd and pryce that will be the difference in a top 8 finish or not . Only three games left and then an end to this season that can't come quick enough and then roll 2015
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| I didn't hear Ellis but from Radford's comments both in the press conference and on Humberside it's clear that the players haven't delivered what they promised to deliver during preparation. The comments echoed some of the stuff Gentle came out with.
There is clearly an issue with some (many?) of the players in our squad that successive coaches have found impossible to deal with. And at the moment there is no sign that Radford will be any more successful. In fact he sounded almost broken.
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| By the way it's a shame Hessle Roader's post was locked. He/she was spot on.
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| Not much to be positive about, though Westerman looked dangerous and Sa good for his brief appearance. Had the two half a we have signed played we would have that game won by 20 mins. Radford got his team wrong IMO, whiting should not play in the centres and Cunningham should be on the bench.
I think with our recruitment we will progress next season, but not sure it will be enough, unless we change our coaching structure, hopefully the rumours about Monghan are correct.
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| Just got in from work and seen the score. We really are crap.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Hopefully only people with a mental age greater than 8 will contribute Mrs B.
Your analysis is perfect and there are major questions to answer over this poor defeat.'"
This performance, in what in the scheme of things was an insignificant match (with the season realistically over weeks ago) is IMO hugely significant and not something to be swept under the carpet.
Where is our attacking structure?
Why fanny about with the halves mid-game?
Why does our energy/urgency ebb and flow so dramatically in a match?
Why do we wait until the last quarter to PTB at pace?
How many offloads did we allow today?
The fact that Radford is again playing the slate the players game is not acceptable. Drop who you like, love, but it's shifting the deck chairs on a Titanic with your name on, sailing right into a derby hammering iceberg.
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| poor result,cant say im surprised.we are a poor side with one of the worst away records in the league.been an awful season all round.
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| Quote ="B0NES"Sounds like Radford has had enough judging by the way he came a cross on the Radio . Confidence shot to bits .'"
Doesn't exactly inspire confidence does he? Sounded very much like Agar circa 2009.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"This performance, in what in the scheme of things was an insignificant match (with the season realistically over weeks ago) is IMO hugely significant and not something to be swept under the carpet.
Where is our attacking structure?
Why fanny about with the halves mid-game?
Why does our energy/urgency ebb and flow so dramatically in a match?
Why do we wait until the last quarter to PTB at pace?
How many offloads did we allow today?
The fact that Radford is again playing the slate the players game is not acceptable. Drop who you like, love, but it's shifting the deck chairs on a Titanic with your name on, sailing right into a derby hammering iceberg.'"
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| So what did Radford say post match interview?
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| Quote ="Dave K."Not much to be positive about, though Westerman looked dangerous and Sa good for his brief appearance. Had the two half a we have signed played we would have that game won by 20 mins. Radford got his team wrong IMO, whiting should not play in the centres and Cunningham should be on the bench.
I think with our recruitment we will progress next season, but not sure it will be enough, unless we change our coaching structure, hopefully the rumours about Monghan are correct.'"
Agree with this. Whiting is not a centre these days and Sa should have started there. Pryce and Sneyd will improve us but there is still much to be worked on, not least is the coaching setup.
If Huddersfield beat us in a couple of weeks time then everyone bar London will have beaten us this season. Also worth noting that after 24 rounds we are six points behind this stage last season and ten behind 2012.
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| I'd say lee sounds really ed off just like most of us tbh and is holding back a lot of what he really feels about some players , sounds like a few kids will getting thrown into the derby
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Agree with this. Whiting is not a centre these days and Sa should have started there. Pryce and Sneyd will improve us but there is still much to be worked on, not least is the coaching setup.
If Huddersfield beat us in a couple of weeks time then everyone bar London will have beaten us this season. Also worth noting that after 24 rounds we are six points behind this stage last season and ten behind 2012.'"
Whats your problem?
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"I'd say lee sounds really vexed off just like most of us tbh and is holding back a lot of what he really feels about some players , sounds like a few kids will getting thrown into the derby'"
Would be crazy to do that !!!! Problem is the more experienced players he could bring in( crooks Miller Thompson Bowden) aren't any better than we have playing at the moment
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| Sounds like a beaten man and its in everyones interests to part company now.
Radford could step down and either join the backroom staff of another club, and attempt to re-build his reputation...meanwhile FC could get announce a new coach for 2015 and actually tempt those like me who aren't going to re-new their passes to change their minds. This current situation is doing neither Radford or the club any favours.
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| Quote ="Standee"All we want is pride, and that appeared to be lacking.'"
You should try getting relegated. It seems to do wonders.
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| Quote ="vbfg"You should try getting relegated. It seems to do wonders.'"
We're still giving it a good go !!
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| Thanks Bones.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"This performance, in what in the scheme of things was an insignificant match (with the season realistically over weeks ago) is IMO hugely significant and not something to be swept under the carpet.
Where is our attacking structure?
Why fanny about with the halves mid-game?
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How many offloads did we allow today?
The fact that Radford is again playing the slate the players game is not acceptable. Drop who you like, love, but it's shifting the deck chairs on a Titanic with your name on, sailing right into a derby hammering iceberg.'"
I agree with most of your post,but surely to score 28pts against an already relegated team should be enough. I think the time has come for radford
to honour what he said pre season,if he couldn't do the job he would walk.What will happen now is he will randomly shuffle the pack,barring for a few untouchables.Is there any wonder we lack confidence ?
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