For me Rankin/Miller should be given an time in the halves... think its got great potential... was disappointed once I heard Miller wasn't picked...

Anyone shed any light on whats going on???

I don't think there's any light to shed, Radders obviously prefers Horne at the minute. Miller will get a chance and it's up to him to take it.

miller isn't good enough

Rubbish, Horne was gash last night too.

Horne was better last night than miller has ever been in any game he's played for us

Rubbish.

If two assists and a try constitutes rubbish then I can't wait until he has a good game.

Horne scored a try and made a try.

He also missed a tackle that led to a Catalans try, threw out a pass that almost led to a Catalans try and conceded two penalties.

Not gash but not great either. I would prefer to see Miller and Rankin but expect Horne to keep his place for the foreseeable future.

He made two try's, for Whiting and Crooks.

Has he been shagging your lass?

Not seen a bigger downer on a player since Blacklock arrived

Three man overlap and he blew it, that's bread and butter stuff for a halfback and indefensible. Add to that the penalties = gash for me.

You just love talking bollox about Miller.

...and you just love talking b.....

Bout your wife?

You should open your eyes more then. miller is a promising youngster. He isn't good enough to be the starting scrum half for a SL club with ambition. If you can't see that then you need to watch more rugby. Thankfully it seems our coach agrees with me and not you

You're the one talking borlox mate. The only notable things miller has done since he arrived is wind up fatty from the dobbins and punch the ball out in the CC semi as the hooter blew. He may end up being a good scrum half but he's currently championship (or whatever it's called now) standard. Anyone who claims anything else is clueless about the game

Let's just leave it to lenny..seem to get it right last night. Imo.

I agree he isn't quite good enough just yet but I don't think you do him justice because he has had plenty of good moments that make me think he can be good. His try against Rovers at CP, his break, step and pass on debut against Cas to give Crooks a try, his break to set up Ellis's try in the playoffs.

He's got lots to learn but I've seen more than enough flashes to say that there is a good player in there.

Keep telling yourself that Jake, all I know is we played two half backs last night and we may have played just one. They both have exactly the same kind of game, but Rankin has pace. Meanwhile we have a genuine scrum half on a pretty penny sat in the stands. If you think those were the only things Miller contributed last year, then I doubt it's me and Chris that know f all.

We have a genuine scrum half in the u19's but he isn't good enough for SL yet either. Do you think that radford would leave miller out if he wasn't the best option?

Horne was dire last night. Sorry, but we should be trying out a partnership not flogging a horse that runs well 4 times a year.

I think the main issue with Miller is that for the amount that (people believe) we are paying him he should be starting and he should be a star.

Rankin should deffo be a starting Half Back, I think Horne is too similar and not the answer we need at Hull, we need a Rangi Chase style Scrum Half. I hope one of 2 things happen, either we pay off/loan out miller and try (again) to sign a tried and tested and experienced Half, Or we give Miller enough chances that will either make him a star or break him.

I would love Miller and Rankin to work and them be our halfs for years to come.

Interesting reaction to Horne's performance from some. He made some errors and did some good things. As well as Rankin did in the second half he was virtually anonymous in the first but that seems to be less scrutinised. Miller will get his chance but as Jake says Radford knows best what he's getting from his players.

For me this argument is the same as the Azza/Houghton argument and all boils down to each individual's rugby philosophy. As an example, I wouldn't have Houghton in my starting 17 as I believe he's too defensive minded and offers us nothing in attack - my dad on the other hand thinks Houghton should be in the England setup.

The same idea applies here, Radders obviously has his philosophy with split halves (have to go by what I've read on here as I'm on holiday ATM) and feels Horne/rankin is the way to go. My preference would be for Miller to play instead of Horne as I feel he offers something different to Rankin/Horne who are quite similar.

I think there's a little bit of proving a point regarding Miller, he was Gentle's blue eyed boy after all. I also think there's sentiment towards Horne, like he has towards Yeaman.