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| Just seen a retweet from Gareth Walker that the new "Marquee" player rule (salary cap exempt) will be given the green light very soon.
That should free up a good chunk of cap space, £150k?
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| Wouldn't it depend on what you paid your marquee player?
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| Looks like if you stamp your feet enough you get your way. I wonder how this will affect anything anyway. The bigger, richer clubs at the top will potentially get the superstars, the smaller, poorer clubs at the bottom will break the bank to get someone who will have no effect on their position in the league and clubs will be in and out of administration right left and centre.
How will championship clubs fit into this to make 2015 a level playing field?
A stupid idea built around Koukash stamping his feet long enough.
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| agree there chris
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| And anyway, Billy Slater told me at Wembley he's coming to FC in 2015
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| Quote ="Chris28"Looks like if you stamp your feet enough you get your way. I wonder how this will affect anything anyway. The bigger, richer clubs at the top will potentially get the superstars, the smaller, poorer clubs at the bottom will break the bank to get someone who will have no effect on their position in the league and clubs will be in and out of administration right left and centre.
How will championship clubs fit into this to make 2015 a level playing field?
A stupid idea built around Koukash stamping his feet long enough.'"
How and who would you define Marquee and how many marquee players are you allowed.?
I agree stupid idea by a bunch of clowns ruinning our sport.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Wouldn't it depend on what you paid your marquee player?'"
I'd assume so, and that your Marquee player would deem to be your highest paid, so if Gareth Ellis was on £150k per year that would free up that amount of cap space.
Although it has been talked about before the good doctor arrived on the scene I do agree with Chris28 that his foot stamping seems to be pushing it through quicker than expected
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| Quote ="major black"How and who would you define Marquee and how many marquee players are you allowed.?
I agree stupid idea by a bunch of clowns ruinning our sport.'"
One player per club, and I would guess that your highest paid player would be deemed the Marquee player
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| Quote ="Chris28"Looks like if you stamp your feet enough you get your way. I wonder how this will affect anything anyway. The bigger, richer clubs at the top will potentially get the superstars, the smaller, poorer clubs at the bottom will break the bank to get someone who will have no effect on their position in the league and clubs will be in and out of administration right left and centre.
How will championship clubs fit into this to make 2015 a level playing field?
A stupid idea built around Koukash stamping his feet long enough.'"
Marquee exemption has been around rugby league longer than koukash has! It was brought to vote a couple of years ago, but didn't pass (more teams wouldn't benefit from it than would) they've been trying to bring it in ever since, it's in the policy review from last September too - what I don't agree with is koukash demanding to bring it in now (a week before the start of the season for Christs sake!) just because he has someone lined up and no other team does. If it's to be brought in bring it in for 2015 so everyone knows what to expect.
I'm not a particularly massive fan of the marquee idea, and I think we'll see liberal uses of the word marquee should it be brought in, but the club trained salary cap cap is a great introduction, so I'm willing to give it a go. Precisely who gets brought into the league on the back of it should be interesting to see.
And indeed, the "marquee player" is whoever is the highest paid player at the club.
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| Room for some creative accounting there?
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| Would they be completely exempt or would they 'count as', like they're doing for high-earning homegrown players?
For example a star player on £200k counts as being on £100k.
The cap hasn't risen for so long, that some slight loosening seems inevitable (and arguably appropriate, despite many clubs still struggling, from a player's POV) with the increase in Sky cash.
There'll be a tension between those that want to balance the books and those that want to 'invest' and 'develop the brand' etc. This is a reasonable way of bridging the gap - but it's yet more complexity.
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| Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"One player per club, and I would guess that your highest paid player would be deemed the Marquee player'"
So by that Kashcow could potentially go over the cap by £250,000 to get his very special player. Whilst the other 75% of SL clubs struggle to reach the cap max as it is.
Why not up the cap in line with inflation. Its been the same amount since its inception hasn't it.
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| Fuck it. Go out and sign Falou.
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| Quote ="major black"So by that Kashcow could potentially go over the cap by £250,000 to get his very special player. Whilst the other 75% of SL clubs struggle to reach the cap max as it is.
Why not up the cap in line with inflation. Its been the same amount since its inception hasn't it.'"
Somewhere between 10 and 12 clubs will spend the full cap this year (using the magically power of informed guessing ) - that doesn't mean all of them want an increase mind!
The salary cap has decreased since it's introduction. Whilst it's hard to pin down the very beginning value of the cap (due to it being the 50% rule as opposed to a set value) top teams were spending around 2.5mill - you are correct, I've been calling for salary cap increases tied with inflation for a long time!
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| The "new Sky deal" if I'm correct, will give clubs £900k extra over the next 2 years, and no salary cap increase to spend it on.
I thought the idea was to give clubs more financial stability.
"Marquee" signings sound like a recipe for disaster.
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| You should have to prove that you can afford to do it before you lay out the 250k or whatever your paying
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| Quote ="MOT"You should have to prove that you can afford to do it before you lay out the 250k or whatever your paying'"
very difficult to define 'afford it'. Salford can afford it today as Koucash will pay the money, if he walks tomorrow Salford go bang.
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| Ingenious
Koukash can pay Rangi chase a million pound a season
But in fact one day at training rangi turns up with 500k in cash and divvys it up among the rest of the players
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Ingenious
Koukash can pay Rangi chase a million pound a season
But in fact one day at training rangi turns up with 500k in cash and divvys it up among the rest of the players'"
Similar to the rumours that =#FF0000we aren't going to put on here, thank you very much.
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| Well this explains Hudgell's tweet from a few days ago. And if so, that means this measure has the backing of at least one other of the 'rebel' clubs rather than KashKow alone.
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| It's an interesting idea and one that could work if administered properly. However the RFL is one of the poorest run administrations in the world of professional sport. I think it would benefit our game over here as we need to desperately find some way to get close to the Australian cap or we will always be light years behind.
If implemented right it could work. I suppose it's working out if it's a risk worth taking.
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Quote ="Kosh"Well this explains Hudgell's tweet from a few days ago. And if so, that means this measure has the backing of at least one other of the 'rebel' clubs rather than KashKow alone.'"
What did he tweet?
Gary Hetherington was making positive sounds about it, too and the [iimplication[/i seemed to be a few more would welcome it... from 2015 at least.
www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/f ... ee-players
Quote ="Scadge1"It's an interesting idea and one that could work if administered properly. However the RFL is one of the poorest run administrations in the world of professional sport. I think it would benefit our game over here as we need to [udesperately find some way to get close to the Australian cap[/u or we will always be light years behind.
If implemented right it could work. I suppose it's working out if it's a risk worth taking.'"
The issue there will remain one of money, rather than the level of the cap.
French football has a lot less money than English football and Paraguayan football has a lot less than either. CFL teams operate with budgets a fraction the size of those of NFL franchises. Sometimes you have to accept your relative limitations and try to adapt rather than trying to compete.
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What did he tweet?
Gary Hetherington was making positive sounds about it, too and the [iimplication[/i seemed to be a few more would welcome it... from 2015 at least.
www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/f ... ee-players
Quote ="Scadge1"It's an interesting idea and one that could work if administered properly. However the RFL is one of the poorest run administrations in the world of professional sport. I think it would benefit our game over here as we need to [udesperately find some way to get close to the Australian cap[/u or we will always be light years behind.
If implemented right it could work. I suppose it's working out if it's a risk worth taking.'"
The issue there will remain one of money, rather than the level of the cap.
French football has a lot less money than English football and Paraguayan football has a lot less than either. CFL teams operate with budgets a fraction the size of those of NFL franchises. Sometimes you have to accept your relative limitations and try to adapt rather than trying to compete.
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| what defines a 'marque signing'?
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| Quote ="Chris28"Looks like if you stamp your feet enough you get your way. I wonder how this will affect anything anyway. The bigger, richer clubs at the top will potentially get the superstars, the smaller, poorer clubs at the bottom will break the bank to get someone who will have no effect on their position in the league and clubs will be in and out of administration right left and centre.
How will championship clubs fit into this to make 2015 a level playing field?
A stupid idea built around Koukash stamping his feet long enough.'"
not as stupid as the new Salford mascot, disgusting self adulation.
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| Quote ="bishops finger"what defines a 'marquee signing'?'"
It's all about intent.............................
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