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Creative accounting by a certain miffed party to ensure no profits for the council?

it does seem quite rediculous that they have been renting offices in their own building for a more than market rent, I think it goes to show just how stupid people in Hull City Council are.

Quite simply the SMC should be independently owned and run. City owners like Duffen and now the Allams just use it as a way of swelling their own clubs coffers with Duffen borrowing against it previously to get cash for City which is clearly wrong and something should be done about it but wont be

This is one area i think AP needs to have a rant on, or at least open up. He has shown how Kath and Rule did us, now he needs to show just how much of a mill stone that user agreement is.

it doesn't strike me that it's anything of the sort.

"we cannot offer ticket discounts due to the user agreement" as we have been fed many a time

£24 a game is too much for the fodder served up.

Many on here, "claim" the club earns nowt from bar takings etc

we now offer reduced and family tickets

if we want players like Ellis and Chase, that's the price (minimum) I am afraid

the concessions and their income are not managed by FC, this is fairly standard in modern stadia

Why does the article keep mentioning football players wages in relation to profit/income from the stadium.

1, We offer a price freeze, some reductions, not wholesale, like the "big one" at Wigan.

2, Yes i agree, Ellis and Chase etc, but current pricing has been set by the previous lot, AP kept it the same (for Jamie Eillis)

3, Really? Well we do get takings from the concessions. Just its capped at our takings from Boulevard levels (based on a 6900 average)

My original point was to see what we do pay to the SMC, and answers on the ticket question. AP hasn’t mentioned reductions per say recently. He did mention a renegotiation of the User agreement at the start of his reign, this has not happened, has it?

I'd be amazed if that's true, even more so that you know the exact figures involved.



Why do we need to know? What does it matter? We have a sustainable arrangement where by our revenue is sufficient to pay the rent and as a result we play in the best stadium in superleague.

What need's renegotiating? We're not going to get a rent reduction in a recession when the running costs will be escalating. That would be the only way we as fans could reap the benefits (ie. cheaper tickets) and it's not going to happen.

Your average attendance was a lot lower than 6900 at the boulevard in SL!!!!

It was more like 5500!!!!

A dobbin having a dig at our attendances...jog on!

The last season there was about 6900, i'll get you all the figures when i'm home.

thats about 500 less than what you are doing now.

Nevermind when your North is built you'll find another 3000 fans

If you don't mind, that would be nice!

Indeed we may find some extra fans, as did Hull FC, from a 5500 SL average to over 12000 in one season, that's some bandwagon you have over in West Hull.

Not "a dig" just the truth!

From a 6900 average.

What about your bandwagon? or has it broken down? From 1400 to 9000 now 7300

I was unaware that our attendance was the topic!

But as you have brought it up......

Yes we have increased our attendances since gaining promotion (which have fallen a little this season), but this was due to our success on the field not a brand new stadium!

We should be able to attract more families and local businesses with the new stand much the same way you did with the KC.

Quote ="FONT"If you don't mind, that would be nice!'" www.hullfc.com/first-team/matches/2001 Quote Indeed we may find some extra fans, as did Hull FC, from a 5500 SL average to over 12000 in one season, that's some bandwagon you have over in West Hull.'" All clubs see a rise in attendance at a new stadium, happens at all clubs in all sports. Hardly a bandwagon considering their still here 10 years later! If you want to compare: You lot 1500 to 9000 in a season - 600% rise Us 5500 to 12000 - 100% rise As well as the fact that your now at 7000 so you've lost 25% of your band wagon fans over 5 years, we have kept 100% of our so called band wagon fans over double that!

Quote ="FONT"If you don't mind, that would be nice!'" www.hullfc.com/first-team/matches/2001 Quote Indeed we may find some extra fans, as did Hull FC, from a 5500 SL average to over 12000 in one season, that's some bandwagon you have over in West Hull.'" All clubs see a rise in attendance at a new stadium, happens at all clubs in all sports. Hardly a bandwagon considering their still here 10 years later! If you want to compare: You lot 1500 to 9000 in a season - 600% rise Us 5500 to 12000 - 100% rise As well as the fact that your now at 7000 so you've lost 25% of your band wagon fans over 5 years, we have kept 100% of our so called band wagon fans over double that!

Good working out of percentages there.

NAAAAAT

Surely that's worse, people only turning up because your winning, that's the definition of band wagon fans!

Wasn't there a song called "3 wheels on my wagon", ideal theme song for the Dobbins.

I'm guessing from your deleted post offering to teach me how to work out percentages that you quickly realised you were wrong?

If you're going to attempt to use maths to make a point, atleast make sure your calculations are correct.




Top gormclops.

You've edited it and it's STILL wrong.

Let's do some MATH.

9000 - 1500 = 7500. 7500 / 1500 = 5. 500% increase.

12000 - 5500 = 6500. 6500 / 5500 = 1.18. 118% increase.

Not difficult is it chief? If you'd have worked it out properly in the first place you'd have further enforced the point you were making. Now you just look like a moron.

Based on the details on the FC site. I get the average attendance for super league matches during 2001 at 6621. This is without the game against Leeds for which there is no attendance figures.

Yep, I'm counting down the seconds until 4:30!