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| So who drops out of the current teams?
Wakefield and KR for me.
Salford, Widnes both got new stadiums. Cas have one on the way.
I know this will wind KR fans up, but if it ever happened they would also have the 1 team form each area issue to contend with as well as having a rubbish stadium along with Wakefield. Neither club tick many boxes.
10 teams, with a state of origin type tournament somewhere in there? War of the Roses?
Could be good, and less to share round in terms of quality players, could make for a stronger league and more quality all round?
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| He said 12 teams not 10.
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| He said 12 clubs, I suspect it would be Bradford & Salford as both have serious financial problems.
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| personally would get rid of London
would guess Bradford would be the other due to recent events although Wakefield would be my next choice
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| 10 teams would be OK. Play each other 3 times and alternate the extra fixture between home and away. Would increase competition and the quality of games and players
Get rid of
salford
widnes
rovers
wakefield
Bail out bradford and support london more effectively
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| He said 12 teams. Teams to drop out would be 2 of Bradford, Salford and Cas.
Not much chance of London dropping out as apparently Sky are keen to keep them in.
Bradford possibly because of their current financial situation, plus poor Stadium.
Salford possibly because of financial issues.
Cas because of poor stadium and not fulfilling things that were stated in their licence application (such as the Stadium).
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| Rovers lose less money than Hull and out perform you season upon season
You'll enjoy playing Batley I guess
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| Sorry meant 12 not 10.
But 10 could work....
And I would add London to KR & Wakey on that list.
Could toss a coin the between Widnes & Salford.
I want to see Bradford get back. They have a lot to offer the game.
What about a State of Origin series? Yorkshire v Lanacashire but players picked on the county they were born not on which club they play for? Example John Wilkin would play for Yorkshire.
Forget the French!!
I think done well that could be a great spectacle? And a break from the SL matches.
Of course the 3 match series would have to have 1 game at the KC? Probably the other 2 at DW Stadium & Galpharm. Could see 20000 crowds for them games if marketed right?
Won't respond to PhilB - no fact behind his reason and nothing added to the debate - is there a term for that?
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| As much as I hate the dobbins I would not want them out of super league , even after years and years of watching the derby I still get butterflies and that sick feeling deep down in my gut.
I dont think it would be in the intrest of sl to lose kr either because
A.. The derby games up the av att for the league and especially the magic weekend
B.. The same as ourselfs teams like wakey, cass, salford and giants rely on the aways support that both our sets of fans bring to their grounds
Long live hull fc and long live super leagues only TRUE derby
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Rovers lose less money than Hull and out perform you season upon season
You'll enjoy playing Batley I guess'"
Shit ground, no fans clinches that precious spot in the lower leagues for you
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| Quote ="whenitsnotraining"Sorry meant 12 not 10.
But 10 could work....
And I would add London to KR & Wakey on that list.
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Ten clubs? You think any club would be happy losing a third of their home games? The alternative would be playing some sides three time and some twice. That clearly is not fair. It's bad enough with the extra "Magic" fixture.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Ten clubs? You think any club would be happy losing a third of their home games? The alternative would be playing some sides three time and some twice. That clearly is not fair. It's bad enough with the extra "Magic" fixture.'"
Play each team 3 times? Still 27 fixtures? Whoever scores the most tries in the first two games gets home draw in the third? I dont know!
Then again exactly how many do London bring to the KC anyway? Hardly a loss.
Huddersfield only brought about 200!
Current gene pool of players over 10 teams means they would all be stronger, the game would be better, more of an attraction - more fans?
Its just a thought.
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| I fully agree with reducing the number of clubs but didn't the SL chairmen vote for 14 clubs ?
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| but aside the partisan attitudes - rovers do not deserve to be relgated
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Rovers lose less money than Hull and out perform you season upon season
You'll enjoy playing Batley I guess'"
You clearly know nothing about your own club. That's why the Grudge has said Rovers have to cut costs and not spend the cap. We lost 250 grand your average loss is double that and this year will be even more as your gates have dropped by 1000
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| if it were to go back to 12 teams then that would have to bring back the 6 team play offs which i feel they should go back to even in this 14 team competition
if it were to be 10 teams we could play everyone 3 times but if it is 12 teams would just play everyone twice with an extra for Magic weekend 23 games?
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| Personally would like to see two full time leagues of 10 with P&R and the money split between the leagues 66:33. Extra fixtures made up of a League Cup with group stages rather than playing teams 3 times in the league.
Wakefield have turned the corner and are a club on the up. Check out their crowds, the developments at the club, etc since Glover took over. More chance of them sticking around than Cas. Cas are no closer to a stadium than they were 5 years ago.
Salford have the ground but seriously need to improve on the pitch and in the crowds. Similar to Widnes I suppose. Don't know where these rumours of them being in financial trouble are coming from. They're just living within their means.
Bradford, well they should start again really unless the new owners pay off the debts.
London should be out. Poorest in all areas other than the ground.
As for Rovers, well I can't see why you'd kick them out other than the ground issue, which is changing bit by bit. Not quite at the pace everyone would like, but faster than Cas and Wakey anyway!
I'd probably go Bradford (bust), London (poor), Cas (declining) and Widnes/Salford.
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| What did Pearson say? Is there a link?
Hudgell, Pearson and McManus all want fewer teams.
I think it might be economically necessary, but it isn't desirable - ideally we'd be growing and spreading the game.
If there isn't enough talent to go around why were so many so keen to cut overseas numbers to give homegrown players a chance?
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Rovers lose less money than Hull '"
Where on earth did you drag that load of old fanny up from?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Where on earth did you drag that load of old fanny up from?'"
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Where on earth did you drag that load of old fanny up from?'"
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Quote ="Mild Rover"What did Pearson say? Is there a link?
Hudgell, Pearson and McManus all want fewer teams.
I think it might be economically necessary, but it isn't desirable - ideally we'd be growing and spreading the game.
If there isn't enough talent to go around why were so many so keen to cut overseas numbers to give homegrown players a chance?'"
It's from a press conference held yesterday, the same one that mentioned that we hadn't managed to get a Visa for Chase and other stuff about recruitment.
He basically says that he thinks that for the talent to be 'spread around a bit thicker' Super League might need to be cut down to 12 teams.
It's up on FCTV.
www.hullfc.com/tv.aspx?v=tZfKdYE ... zmElQlxA==
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Quote ="Mild Rover"What did Pearson say? Is there a link?
Hudgell, Pearson and McManus all want fewer teams.
I think it might be economically necessary, but it isn't desirable - ideally we'd be growing and spreading the game.
If there isn't enough talent to go around why were so many so keen to cut overseas numbers to give homegrown players a chance?'"
It's from a press conference held yesterday, the same one that mentioned that we hadn't managed to get a Visa for Chase and other stuff about recruitment.
He basically says that he thinks that for the talent to be 'spread around a bit thicker' Super League might need to be cut down to 12 teams.
It's up on FCTV.
www.hullfc.com/tv.aspx?v=tZfKdYE ... zmElQlxA==
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