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| [urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Hull-FC-ll-bring-better-players-says-Peter-Gentle/story-16386129-detail/story.html[/url
I honestly have faith for next year.
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| Players leaving does not have to be a negative thing. It gives Gentle the chance to spend the cap on his own players, & mould the team how he wants it.
In AP & PG we trust!
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| But, but, our recruitment is going to be rubbish for next season, isn't it? That's what I keep reading on here, so it must be true.
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| I have no doubt that the new regime will finally put us in a place we want to be
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| I have had faith in Gentle since he took the job on, like all coaches I will judge him after he has had chance to replace a group of players. I think he has been a victim of the good start we have had and now a lot of fans expectations are too high for this season.
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| Awesome. When we replace manu, moa, mckinnon and o'meley with better players I think we will win SL
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| Do you not think this statement, whilst designed to apease the fans could have the opposite effect on the departing players at this point of the season? Basically its telling the players there are better than you out there. That could have an affect on confidence and performance.
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| I still dont see why we're most certain to sign Jason Crookes? I just dont see anything special about him. Obviously Gentle does even after only been here half a season so I will just have to trust PG. one good thing it certainly seems as though he's here fit the long run doesn't it.
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| im not sure he means better in ability but i think alot of the replacements will be better prospects and british talent
i cant see us replacing all departing with bigger name players but it would be amazing if we did
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| Going to be gutted seeing Moa leave
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"im not sure he means better in ability but i think alot of the replacements will be better prospects and british talent
i cant see us replacing all departing with bigger name players but it would be amazing if we did'"
I agree I didn't necessarily think he meant better in terms of ability but better in terms of attitude and what they bring to the club as a whole. It has become quite clear that the club still has some players who don't have the right stuff mentally and they will be shown the door hopefully.
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| This sentence speaks volumes
Quote You need players who can play, but we are also bringing in players who we can coach'"
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| Quote ="Smiggs"I agree I didn't necessarily think he meant better in terms of ability but better in terms of attitude and what they bring to the club as a whole. It has become quite clear that the club still has some players who don't have the right stuff mentally and they will be shown the door hopefully.'"
Spot on, as the line that Hutchie quoted clearly shows. And about time too IMO.
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| Quote ="lewis_hullfc"im not sure he means better in ability but i think alot of the replacements will be better prospects and british talent
i cant see us replacing all departing with bigger name players but it would be amazing if we did'"
So not better at all then?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"So not better at all then?'"
Depends. A player of lesser ability who actually produces his best form week in and week out would be a better player than one of higher ability who plays well once in a blue moon IMO.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Going to be gutted seeing Moa leave
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Me too pal but I asked him at the fans forum at begining of seasom and he wasnt 100% certain to go then , I think hull have give him the chance to speak to nrl teams from the start of the season and ive not heard of any team thats intrested in him yet so he may stay another year (we live in hope)
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| Quote ="Kosh"Depends. A player of lesser ability who actually produces his best form week in and week out would be a better player than one of higher ability who plays well once in a blue moon IMO.'"
agreed, however manu and moa certainly perform to a high level more frequently than "once in a blue moon"
I think it's good that we are bringing in younger player with a better attitude (other than watts, obviously) but it's not going to see us winning things unless we also bring in some top class experienced players too. A front row of elima, lynch, o'carrol and watts isn't in the top 6 in SL no matter how good their attitude
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| It would be great if we could strike up a partnership with West Tigers due to the Gentle link. I'm pretty sure Leeds have one with Souths.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"agreed, however manu and moa certainly perform to a high level more frequently than "once in a blue moon"
I think it's good that we are bringing in younger player with a better attitude (other than watts, obviously) but it's not going to see us winning things unless we also bring in some top class experienced players too. A front row of elima, lynch, o'carrol and watts isn't in the top 6 in SL no matter how good their attitude'"
I think Manu and Moa are the two where it's going to be hardest to justify a 'better replacement' line, certainly. Unless we somehow pull a rabbit or two out of the hat. With quite a few others I think we could fairly easily end up with replacements who contribute more and are therefore better players.
As I've said elsewhere, the names currently being rumoured don't inspire me much. But then they are just rumours ATM. I'll reserve my criticism/praise until we confirm at least the bulk of our squad for next season.
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| To me Arundel, Crookes, Pitts & Watts are all designed to plug gaps while our youth development kicks in.
They will all be on modest contracts - expect some to come on in leaps & bounds, some will fall by the wayside. They will reap their own rewards.
Sure in PG he is looking for attitude, commitment etc as well as talent. For the first time in years we have a coach who can improve payers.
In PG, AP we trust.
Do like the idea of SOME better players coming in though. Just watched Matty BOWEN have an OUTSTANDING game - one player like him in the backs would really transform our attacking threat.
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| Quote ="blackandwhitecity"Do you not think this statement, whilst designed to apease the fans could have the opposite effect on the departing players at this point of the season? Basically its telling the players there are better than you out there. That could have an affect on confidence and performance.'"
& if nothing was said people would be complaining assuming that our recruitment for next year is going to be garbage. They really can't win
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"So not better at all then?'"
all depends how you look at it imo you have to buy success but it does not last look at bradford. wigan is a great example of young british talent and a couple of quality overseas players thats the mix we need and i feel gentle will get. moa and manu are the only players i dont want to lose the rest for me if true are easy replaceable.
but i dont think any player in the rl world can replace manu like for like he is a unique player and has his own style. were as moa is a quality powerful forward which i think we can replace with like for like if we go overseas and get a big islander maybe another "prospect" as agar labelled him lol
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"agreed, however manu and moa certainly perform to a high level more frequently than "once in a blue moon"
I think it's good that we are bringing in younger player with a better attitude (other than watts, obviously) but it's not going to see us winning things unless we also bring in some top class experienced players too. A front row of elima, lynch, o'carrol and watts isn't in the top 6 in SL no matter how good their attitude'"
Agree with this. We have to wait and see - no other choice really and it was never going to be done overnight. But we need some proven quality across the team as well as the up and coming 'coachables'. It really isn't easy against the backdrop of fewer quality players being available which is why the retention of our best players is/was so important.
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| If we're going to be bringing in better players then I hope the rumours about Watts and Elima signing are just rumours.
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| I always thought it would take two years for us to be able to challenge. It can't all be done overnight and I'm glad Gentle sees it that way too. There are no quick fixes so a mixture of youth players combined with young English talent and a few experienced bodies sounds ideal to me.
I think we need to be patient and trust PG and AP to get it right.
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