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| Having watched a fair bit of West Tigers over the last few years Tim Sheens and his coaching staff have them playing a style of rugby that could be described as vibrant, uncoventional and unpredictable. With PG now at the helm of the black and whites do we have the quality right now to adopt this Wests philosophy and pull it off or are we going in over our heads.
Just interest in peoples thoughts as I'm sat on the fence with this one if he and the players pull it off we're in for some long overdue entertainment. If not it could be a disaster of peter walsh preportions.
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| It's a great ambition but I'm not sure you have the halves to pull it off. Looking at your team from the outside I would say you are stronger in the forwards.
Wests have Rangi Chase running the show who naturally has the flair and exuberance needed.
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| Quote ="major black"Having watched a fair bit of West Tigers over the last few years Tim Sheens and his coaching staff have them playing a style of rugby that could be described as vibrant, uncoventional and unpredictable. With PG now at the helm of the black and whites do we have the quality right now to adopt this Wests philosophy and pull it off or are we going in over our heads.
Just interest in peoples thoughts as I'm sat on the fence with this one if he and the players pull it off we're in for some long overdue entertainment. If not it could be a disaster of peter walsh preportions.'"
Gentle said last night he'd already started to input a lot stuff brought over from Wests!
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"It's a great ambition but I'm not sure you have the halves to pull it off. Looking at your team from the outside I would say you are stronger in the forwards.
Wests have Rangi Chase running the show who naturally has the flair and exuberance needed.'"
Rangi Chase?
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"It's a great ambition but I'm not sure you have the halves to pull it off. Looking at your team from the outside I would say you are stronger in the forwards.
Wests have Rangi Chase running the show who naturally has the flair and exuberance needed.'"
Some idiot will no doubt point it out, so it may as well be me - Benji Marshall.
Although Cas Tigers may be a more realistic aspiration than Wests Tigers. I'm already fecking off, don't throw things!
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| i'd rather lose trying to play entertaining rugby than lose playing the boring stuff we ve been served up for the number of years..................
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| The main thing I think we will see us taking from Wests is a ton of scrum plays and working the short side by over loading it.
I actually thought last year we tried to play some expansive stuff but the problem was as soon as it went wrong we went away from it and back to the boring safe stuff. Its why when we clicked last year we ran up some points but on the other hand when stuff went wrong we tried to keep it tight and became predictable and sides ran away from us in second halfs.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Some idiot will no doubt point it out, so it may as well be me - Benji Marshall.
Although Cas Tigers may be a more realistic aspiration than Wests Tigers. I'm already fecking off, don't throw things!
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Gentle also added the caveat that although we didn't have Benji, our halves were training the same way.
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| Quote ="DABHAND"Rangi Chase?'"
Yeah, haven't you heard Rangi Chase and Benji Marshall in shock swap deal?
Ah well, they're both from New Zealand anyway.
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| Quote ="penny for your thoughts"i'd rather lose trying to play entertaining rugby than lose playing the boring stuff we ve been served up for the number of years..................'"
Thats interesting point but for how long would people put up with it.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Gentle said last night he'd already started to input a lot stuff brought over from Wests!
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Yeah, which lead me to thinking, hence this post.
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| agree with previous comment, would rather us lose playing exiting, unpredictable rugby then lose doing the same boring thing week in week out.
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| We never played boring rugby last season!! we were pretty expansive the trouble was it was mainly due to Westy's off the cuff stuff as we were short in the h/backs. Hopefully now we have h/backs in place we will step up another notch.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Gentle also added the caveat that although we didn't have Benji, our halves were training the same way.
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I have a punch bag and think im Ali.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"We never played boring rugby last season!! we were pretty expansive the trouble was it was mainly due to Westy's off the cuff stuff as we were short in the h/backs. Hopefully now we have h/backs in place we will step up another notch.'"
I sort of agree but it was short bursts against some poor teams. Altough we have quite a few new faces I worry wether we have sufficient quality across the park that can meet AP and the fans expectations for the new season. Its alright saying id rather loose playing entertaining stuff but wether people will still be saying that 10 games in is another question and I suspect not.
Bring on Sunday and it will give us a better idea.
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| I won't be happy if we play lovely looking rugby and lose, but I suspect PG won't be either. BUT this is a season of transition so I'm not expecting finals, just a better win ratio than the last few years, some attractive play and good tries, and a more positive feeling about the club as a whole. Part of that is done with the clear out of the old regime, but I'm not holding my breath for the rest. Progress will be just fine.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Gentle said last night he'd already started to input a lot stuff brought over from Wests!
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Every new coach will come with his own idea's and coaching methods.That goes for every club.Only good coach's will make them work.I feel PG will make a excellent head coach, afterall not many coach's can claim to have worked under the best coach in the world or even been the assistant coach to the best team in the world.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"I have a punch bag and think im Ali.
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| Quote ="Raised Elbow"Every new coach will come with his own idea's and coaching methods.That goes for every club.Only good coach's will make them work.I feel PG will make a excellent head coach, afterall not many coach's can claim to have worked under the best coach in the world or even been the assistant coach to the best team in the world.'"
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"I have a punch bag and think im Ali.
'" I thought Ali Ba-ba had a lamp
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| Quote ="major black"I sort of agree but it was short bursts against some poor teams. Altough we have quite a few new faces I worry wether we have sufficient quality across the park that can meet AP and the fans expectations for the new season. Its alright saying id rather loose playing entertaining stuff but wether people will still be saying that 10 games in is another question and I suspect not.
Bring on Sunday and it will give us a better idea.'"
TBH I do not think AP or the majority of fans are expecting too much next season other than improvement any thing else will be a bonus. Hopefully we will be a regular major force in the next 2/3 seasons.
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| Quote ="Marfa Manu"We never played boring rugby last season!! we were pretty expansive the trouble was it was mainly due to Westy's off the cuff stuff as we were short in the h/backs. Hopefully now we have h/backs in place we will step up another notch.'"
We threw the ball around against the bottom 6 sides and got some big scores...but when it mattered in big games we had no ideas (our away match at Headingley was one of the limpest, dullest performances I've ever seen)
We won't be perfect next season, there are too many changes to the team and weaknesses in the squad. But we should at least see some evidence of a gameplan, tactics and something to cheer about.
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| We played some decent stuff at times last year but we had no consistency, we were either great or rubbish. We also lacked structure and injuries in the halves never helped.
I don't expect us to play like Wests, however we may take some of their ideas and principles.
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| Hopefully it will be a long and successful visit.
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