has to go............waste of money

You have your opinion,but someone in front of me said he hoped Longy would get injured so as he could be took off.Bang out of order,what the hell is it coming to?

Played quite well tonight, constantly tried organising the side and was lively. He was not the reason we lost, he played far better than Horne tonight and just had no options to work with.

Im sick and tired of calling for him to actually take control of our sets. I've given up. He was virtually non-existant in the second half.

Longy played well????????? Not from where i was sitting, for what good he did he might as well have sat next to me. Spectator who was not interested for the majority of the game.

got to disagree he was very poor again tonight, he was the player brought in to lead the boys around the park and control games with his kicking game, now how many attacking or long kicks did he put in and what was the quality like?, as for leading us around the park we were awfully disorginised and looked far better with obst and horne. and for me hhis passion for playing for hull fc has to be questioned with out doubt

As much as I think Long has generally been poor in a Hull shirt, tonight included, I agree about his lack of options.

How much easier must it have been to put in a performance under the likes of Millward, Anderson, even Potter where his side played to a structure and had numerous runners and options?

Kicking game was poor but when we had the ball he was constantly organising the line, he was taking the line on and a couple of times busted the line with an inside ball but he just needed more options. For his first game back he looked okay and certainly did more than Horne.

i have to admit, he was there, just never did anything, maybe actually give him time, since only returning to the side, maybe against quins, he might do us some good

Not a nice thing to say about anyone in any circumstances, but maybe it has something to do with the fact that Long has never really felt like our player?

His heart's just not in it and it's plain for all to see.

He must have it in his contract that if he's fit he plays. He was fecking anonymous tonight and we looked clueless.
We actually looked good in the last 2 games with Obst controlling each set from tackle 3 onwards, Long comes back and it goes to pot. Long is here for the money, nothing else and I just can't see what he brings to the team.

He was rubbish. As a number 7 he should be setting up plays that involve a number of players. That way he would have options and then he just needs to pick the right pass. All we do is just drive it in or the odd drop off.

**** off

the guy is sadly playing under cack coach who is employed by a cack board

Fault lies with the owners of this club, the problems are deep rooted, very deep rooted, the aministration and owners of my club are a disgrace

Very well said!! Don't wish injuries, but Long just clearly doesn't want to play for us....

Obst has been far better in 3 games than Long in his entire duration!!

Nope cos hes employed by the club, EVERYTHING off the pitch is a joke, nothing on the pitch will improve untill the administration change

Long was thrown in tonight because of his name and not peformance.. whilst Obst has looked a better option at 7 in the last 2 games..

Should have stuck with him as long was rubbish tonight..no organisition,no leadership,crap kicking...awful.

Nearly everything went through horne, we seemed to only be capable when swinging it to his side. Long was OK in the first half but offered absolutely nothing in the second. The lines most players ran all night were dreadful.

Could his mind be elsewhere now Eastmond is in trouble

halfbacks need options he had very few

Agree, but why change a promising half back pairing, given more time I think Obst/Horne will go better.
We have no dummy runners to help out whatever half back plays.
Slinging long balls along the line is easy for a sliding defence.
What concerns me is the breaks we made and the way Wakey were able to turn and catch us, thus contributing to us making rash passes when in the clear.

With Long on the bench I think Obst and Horne would have had us in a winning position in the first half and help to ease Long back to match fitness, typical lack of thought from out coach.

Have to disagree there, Paul. He had glimpses in the game, played better in the second before he went off, had a half break to put Westy through and tried to take the line on a bit. But that's it. He certainly didn't do enough.

Horney for me played his heart out, but nobody was with him on his runs.

You mean the "world class" Richard Horne? (I know you never said he was, just pointing out how idiotic some on here have been)

Long had a decent 15 minutes, other than that he was going through the motions, but there were a lot doing that. We seem to have lost the ability to give a decent pass, why the hell we dropped Turner to bring Lyne in and shuffle players to accomodate him is beyond me.

Agar won't go anywhere, he wont get sacked and he wont walk because he knows no other club would be stupid enough to employ him other than as some kind of Victorian side show.

As you said in the other thread, even if he goes what do we get, Webster? FatNamara?, I never thought I'd hear that amount of booing and calling for the coach, 11,500 there last night, a tonking at Quins next week (which is a real possibility) and they'll struggle to get 13,000 against Castleford (who will bring many more than the pathetic Wakefield traveling attendance).

Certain posters on here have, in the past, had a dig at me for not going to games last season, what they forget is I was living and working in London, now I am a little nearer home it's still a trek, I got back home last night just after 11:40pm, for what, a clapped out 7, a 13 that isn't a 13, Westerman playing well so subbed, Obst on the bench and then brought back on with 6:28 to go, a 6 that can't pass, I'll not go on, I'm depressed enough.

And, on a final note, can I say to the guy with the microphone "shove it where the sun doesn't shine", we'll sing Old Faithful when WE want to, not when some no-mark in a suit tells us to.

AGAR OUT

CRACKING POST STANDEE.

Was you in Albert before game?

before and after

about the only good thing about last night (other than catching up with friends) was that the parking was free!