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| It's an interesting debate about the Agar out banners really.
As fans (myself included) we tend to look down on other fans who are critical in certain situations. I was sat there today thinking how embaressing that banner was when we were supposed to be showing our support for the players. The Agar out chant started after the first try and again I thought how bad it was. Then when I actually thought about it I started trying to think how frustrated those fans must feel to be willing to make themselves a target for abuse and mockery from other FC fans just to get their point across, a point most fans seem to agree with by the way. It's similar to those fans forums at the KC when everyone on here thinks its a love in for the club, the problem is that even though fans might agree with certain complaints they feel compelled to defend their club if anyone says something. The very few times someone has been critical at one of those events, everyone seems to give them the evil eye and tut and start muttering about "true fans" etc.
It's an inbuilt reaction for most of us to condemn these sort of protests but we'd happily accept the results if gets rid of Agar. I'll be very honest and say now that I'm hypocritical in this area as I'll look down from my high horse at those protesting at games but if gets the desired result I'll be more than happy.
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| To start of with robbo thanks im the guy who made the banner, and i just wish that the majority of the fans who slagged agar off during the week could stand up and state it at a game other wise the problem will not be solved and will carry on all season i will be there next week singing the same song with the same banner showing some passion for my club because all the time hes with us we arent going to achieve anything. AGAR OUT UP THE FC !!!
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| Quote ="gav_hullfc"To start of with robbo thanks im the guy who made the banner, and i just wish that the majority of the fans who slagged agar off during the week could stand up and state it at a game other wise the problem will not be solved and will carry on all season i will be there next week singing the same song with the same banner showing some passion for my club because all the time hes with us we arent going to achieve anything. AGAR OUT UP THE FC !!!'"
Well get ya head down son, the nanny state will be along soon to wave their finger and tut at you..
Well done in the sense you done what you set out to do, but changes nothing.. agar is and will be in charge of FC today, tomorrow and a while yet..
No matter what any fool on here says otherwise!!.
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| Well at least you stood up for what you believe in, the board just love the die hard fans that complain on message boards but dont actually do anything else, sending them home unhappy after watching yet another 5 drive and a poor kick game while raking in the money.
Hull Fc the only team yet to win.
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| Quote ="gav_hullfc"To start of with robbo thanks im the guy who made the banner, and i just wish that the majority of the fans who slagged agar off during the week could stand up and state it at a game other wise the problem will not be solved and will carry on all season i will be there next week singing the same song with the same banner showing some passion for my club because all the time hes with us we arent going to achieve anything. AGAR OUT UP THE FC !!!'"
Good on you, instead of whinging on here or signing petitions you stood up and did what you believed in
What amazes me is the same people who are calling for Agar's head are slating a fan for displaying an Agar Out poster
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"www.rleague.com/db/article.php?id=38515
The Agar Out, banner made it into the press.'"
Do you think that article is refering to any particular website or just this one?
Because if its an internet campaign being led by this website Chicken Licken is in charge
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| the way i see it, if thee people with the banners want agar out, then they have every right to voice their opinions.
they pay their hard earned cash, the club say we're the "18th man", so we're allowed to voice our opinion.
the fans showing up shows that they're still behind the team.
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| I've said all along you can chant hold banners and whatever the only time the board will listen to the fans is if they stop going. Which is exactly why im not going, its the only way the board will get the message.
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| Feck banners, just dont go as money is the only language the 'company' understand.
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| Quote ="gav_hullfc"To start of with robbo thanks im the guy who made the banner, and i just wish that the majority of the fans who slagged agar off during the week could stand up and state it at a game other wise the problem will not be solved and will carry on all season i will be there next week singing the same song with the same banner showing some passion for my club because all the time hes with us we arent going to achieve anything. AGAR OUT UP THE FC !!!'"
Dont give up keep doing it m8
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| There are ways and means and abusing fans and players is not the right way by any stretch of the imagination.
Stand in West Park on Friday night with a petition and you will get a much greater response
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"I've said all along you can chant hold banners and whatever the only time the board will listen to the fans is if they stop going. Which is exactly why im not going, its the only way the board will get the message.'"
Exactly, i agree, anyone who really cares about our club, who really wants change, who wants some success and can see how far we are slipping behind the rest, i urge you to vote with your feet and wallets and not turn out on Friday night, its a small price to pay, to miss one game, its the only way they will sit up and take note, thousands of empty seats. stay at home, boycott Friday night!!
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Exactly, i agree, anyone who really cares about our club, who really wants change, who wants some success and can see how far we are slipping behind the rest, i urge you to vote with your feet and wallets and not turn out on Friday night, its a small price to pay, to miss one game, its the only way they will sit up and take note, thousands of empty seats. stay at home, boycott Friday night!!'"
What about the passholders who've already paid? How will their absence affect the club?
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| Quote ="Chris28"What about the passholders who've already paid? How will their absence affect the club?'"
Empty seats.
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| Quote ="Chris28"What about the passholders who've already paid? How will their absence affect the club?'"
I would like the answer to that, I would not mind I had to talk my hubby into buying the passes as he did not want us to
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| Quote ="Chris28"What about the passholders who've already paid? How will their absence affect the club?'"
Empty seats, speak volumes, i know this wont happen cos all the sheep will turn up regardless, but if we the fans orchastrated a proper boycott and only a few hundred turned up, what do you think the board would think? dont you think that would make them sit up and take some action?
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"I've said all along you can chant hold banners and whatever the only time the board will listen to the fans is if they stop going. Which is exactly why im not going, its the only way the board will get the message.'"
That's my attitude. Nothing that Rich Agar is responsible for producing will ever be worth a £24 admission price, let alone what it costs to go away.
Fair play to the people with the banners, if they want to express their views like that then they have every right to. Most of the people who are disapproving of it would actually be just as happy if Agar does go.
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| Quote ="Chris28"What about the passholders who've already paid? How will their absence affect the club?'"
A large number of empty seats will be a concern as they could easily translate into missing pass sales for next season.
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| Quote ="Kosh"A large number of empty seats will be a concern as they could easily translate into missing pass sales for next season.'"
But not for this season when people have already paid. The board may not be happy about empty seats, but with money in the bank now, they've no reason to be crying into their G&Ts
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Empty seats, speak volumes, i know this wont happen cos all the sheep will turn up regardless, but if we the fans orchastrated a proper boycott and only a few hundred turned up, what do you think the board would think? dont you think that would make them sit up and take some action?'"
Why would I pay for something and not use it? As I said above, the club has passholder's money in the bank so why would they care about a passholder boycott?
I can see the argument about next year's passes, but this year it means the square root of sweet FA to them
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| Quote ="Chris28"Why would I pay for something and not use it? As I said above, the club has passholder's money in the bank so why would they care about a passholder boycott?
I can see the argument about next year's passes, but this year it means the square root of sweet FA to them'"
They'd see that the writing was on the wall though? Pass sales this year down on last year, now some of those that did buy a pass aren't even bothering to attend. The board would realise that pass sales were likely to drop even more significantly next season, I'm not convinced they'd just think 'sod it, this season's money is already in the bank'.
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| Quote ="VerbalKint"Empty seats, speak volumes, i know this wont happen cos all the sheep will turn up regardless'"
I'm not convinced that treating fellow supporters with contempt just for being a supporter adds anything to your argument TBH.
Makes you look childish and petulant in fact.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm not convinced that treating fellow supporters with contempt just for being a supporter adds anything to your argument TBH.
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Agree, we do not want to be fighting with each other, we will leave that to the dobbins
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| Quote ="Chris28"Why would I pay for something and not use it? As I said above, the club has passholder's money in the bank so why would they care about a passholder boycott?
I can see the argument about next year's passes, but this year it means the square root of sweet FA to them'"
A boycott Friday night is not about money! its to make a point, a principle! to make the powers that be realise we have had enough, that if things continue the way they are they will be staring at those empty seats for years to come, but like i said it wont happen as there are too many of you bleating ' ive paid so why shouldnt i use it',
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