Mods. Firstly please don't delete this, infact can you sticky it, this thread is different from others, as it's a different topic, it's not a discussion about agar, it's a discussion about signing a petition, having us fans voices heard, and sacking him! We already have 230 strong signatures, we need a lot more guys. To sign the petition go to: www.agarout.com When you have signed the petition, please like the facebook fan page: www.facebook.com/#!/pages/AGAR-O ... 8227284293 We need as much support, the board seem not to respond to fans do they, but with me not having enough support to go and attack the board, we will never stand a chance will we? Please help thanks

Mods. Firstly please don't delete this, infact can you sticky it, this thread is different from others, as it's a different topic, it's not a discussion about agar, it's a discussion about signing a petition, having us fans voices heard, and sacking him! We already have 230 strong signatures, we need a lot more guys. To sign the petition go to: www.agarout.com When you have signed the petition, please like the facebook fan page: www.facebook.com/#!/pages/AGAR-O ... 8227284293 We need as much support, the board seem not to respond to fans do they, but with me not having enough support to go and attack the board, we will never stand a chance will we? Please help thanks

I appreciate the sentiment, but the petition is very poorly worded. If it's going to be taken seriously it needs to be almost totally revamped.

Will you help me please?

regards

Not everybody needs to write like their a member of mensa you know. The fact that he's done this and has 230 signitures on it to date means it has substance.

It's not getting stickied, in fact I am struggling to see why I would not just merge it with the boycott thread, in essence they are all about the same thing, Agar out.

Hi Paul,

Please can you leave it as a separate thread. The agar thread has so much stuff going on in it, it's that messy to keep track, and it's harder for me to keep people updated.

kind regards
lewis

Ok Lewis I will leave it seperate for you.

Hi Lewis good to see someone being proactive I just think RG's point above was that when these sort of things are sent to the organisation to whom you wish to make a point you have to make sure that they have no chance of discrediting it by say finding fault with the wording! You should also consider cleansing it down when you have spoof entries from the half wits across the river on it. Names like Mick Vella ( will be instantly discredited because he can't write) and Mr Blobby ( Justin Morgan doesn't sign petitions!) also liked Brian Noble (unemployed) however on a serious note it does lose some credibility too when your own name is on it more than once! still at least your attempting to do something!

Sure. For a start, I think the bit about player recruitment has to go. Many people would argue that this has been one of Agar's stronger areas. Mistakes have been made, I think, but there have been some successes as well.

I think the bit about 'all other SL teams' having a top quality proven SL coach has to go as well, as it's not true.

I also thinki the statement needs to be less emotional. I appreciate that emotions are running high at the moment, but it doesn't come across well in a petition that's intended to be presented to the board.

I'd stick to a very general statement about how the off-field set up is not being matched by results (and performances) on the field and how Agar seems unable to get the best out of a decent group of players.

I've never drafted a petition before, but I'd go something along these lines:

[iWe, the undersigned, wish to petition for the immediate removal of Richard Agar from his position as Head Coach of Hull FC. We do so on the following grounds:

1) That performances throughout his tenure have not been of an acceptable standard given the playing staff as his disposal. Lack of support play, poor defensive line speed, lack of any discernible attacking structure and the tendency for our edge defence to be exposed have been features of our play for the entire time that Richard Agar has been in charge of the first team. There has been little to no improvement in these areas.

2) The interchanges executed by the coach seem to make little sense. Some players seem to be forced into playing many more minutes than they ought to whilst others play only for very short spells to the detriment of the overall team performance.

3) Agar seems unable to motivate his players for big games. The recent derbies and the last two home games against Leeds are standout examples of this, but there have been many throughout Agar's tenure.

4) Most fans watch rugby league for entertainment. Our style of rugby under Richard Agar has been anything other than entertaining. We are also amongst the most expensive team to watch in the entire competition. It is time that the standard of entertainment improved to reflect this fact.

5) Off the field, we are a top-performing club. We have one of the highest average attendances in Super League and excellent merchandise sales. We are constantly reminded of our 'Grade-A' licence status, yet, when it comes to results on the field, we're no better than Grade B or C.

We, as loyal fans of Hull FC, will support this club through thick and thin provided we know that those running the club are doing everything within their power to bring us the success we deserve. As things stand, we feel that this is not the case. Until Richard Agar is replaced with a top-quality coach with a proven track record of success, the feeling amongst the signatories below will be that you are doing both the club and the fans a great disservice. [/i


That's just off the top of my head and others might have a better idea of how it ought to be structured than I. Any input is welcome...

It wasn't supposed to be an attack on the OP. Wilf had it right in his post below - if it's going to be taken seriously by those in charge (which is doubtful anyway unless we can get a couple of thousand signatures on there), it needs to be worded properly.

I wouldn't sign the petition as it stands but I would if it was reworded to RG's text and if the joke/multiple signatures were removed.

Spot on that Rock God. And good work Lewis for all the effort.

Very good.

I might add that we've not won a play-off game since 2007, that's all.

Very well structured and an excellent explanation of RA's failings, I have never been a coach knocker, but last weekend I made the comment about our second half performance being akin to previous second half performances when coaches have gone the following week and Friday night just hurt like hell and I really can't see any improvement without a new broom to ring the changes.

Petition updated Thanks guys www.ipetitions.com/petition/agarouthullfc/

Petition updated Thanks guys www.ipetitions.com/petition/agarouthullfc/

Im filtering some of the fake and duplicate signatures now aswell.

I'll do as many as possible, although it would be better to filter through them towards the end of the petition, that way it's not a constant task.

lewis

Quote ="Dobbo Hull"Petition updated Thanks guys www.ipetitions.com/petition/agarouthullfc/'" I think it's a pertinent point that ComeOnYouUll raised - you need to keep an eye on who's signing it and what they're putting in their comments. Stuff like 'feckin baffoon' (sic) and 'sh*te coach' will you no favours when it comes to submitting it to the board (if you're serious about doing that). Something with fewer signatures but nothing abusive will be far better received, I reckon.

Quote ="Dobbo Hull"Petition updated Thanks guys www.ipetitions.com/petition/agarouthullfc/'" I think it's a pertinent point that ComeOnYouUll raised - you need to keep an eye on who's signing it and what they're putting in their comments. Stuff like 'feckin baffoon' (sic) and 'sh*te coach' will you no favours when it comes to submitting it to the board (if you're serious about doing that). Something with fewer signatures but nothing abusive will be far better received, I reckon.

Good effort guys. Was thinking if all those with mobile phones or email access sent a message out with the petition site address and asked them to forward it on etc, I'm sure it would increase the hit rates and potential signitures to the site. Not sure if it would go viral around Hull but worth a pop.

I agree Rock God, i'll keep an eye on that.

I just edited the petition and put near the sign signature box :

WE Welcome comments, but those that are just slanderous, contain swearing or abusive language will be deleted, please keep it respectable guys.

Not a bad shout, that.

I reckon that a good 2000 signatures will be needed before it carries any weight. That's 2000 proper signatures after all the crap has been deleted.

Signature 205 needs removing G Hetherington

and 230 Sam Moa

Hold up, you ought to at least verify that it's not real before you remove it?

Maybe Gary's just got tired of trying to make his wife listen

I'd be more tempted to do it on a daily basis. That way, you won't have to wade through pages and pages of stuff right at the end. The more you have to do at once, the more chance you'll miss something.

Thanks,

Removed

Done mine. On the back of this thought it may be worth setting up a 'Rallying Call' template so people can simply copy n paste to a text or email. Cough, cough Wiiilllllffffff....cough, cough