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| watched under 15s there seems to be a lot of talented lads .The West Hull Team have a couple in particular in Shepherdson Turget Lawler Fash Burton all look very promising
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| likewise at East Hull Under 14's, believe half are FC training??????????
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| Quote ="upnunder"watched under 15s there seems to be a lot of talented lads .The West Hull Team have a couple in particular in Shepherdson Turget Lawler Fash Burton all look very promising'"
You appear to have mentioned 5 from West Hull, which two are you saying look very promising?
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| Look out for a young lad called Parker.....on Hull's acadamy squad (if thats what its called ).The lad is 13 and an absolute star in the making .Hope he gets noticed when the time is right. Heart of a lion and no fear .Learning his craft ,hopefully to become a Hull FC legend
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| Joe Burton has all the attributes to be a top class forward.
Good kid with a great attitude also.
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| Quote ="upnunder"watched under 15s there seems to be a lot of talented lads .The West Hull Team have a couple in particular in Shepherdson Turget Lawler Fash Burton all look very promising'"
Thank god Rich agar can,t get his hands on them yet he,ll soon turn them from promising to below average Rich( the only coach what regresses talent and stifles skill) Agar, by the time they can play for fc he will hopefully be back coaching york or gateshead
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| Quote ="easthullairliebird"Thank god Rich agar can,t get his hands on them yet he,ll soon turn them from promising to below average Rich( the only coach what regresses talent and stifles skill) Agar, by the time they can play for fc he will hopefully be back coaching york or gateshead'"
Yea Briscoe's sh*te aint he!
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| Quote ="flezmundo"Yea Briscoe's sh*te aint he!'"
briscoe is a talent that is still no where near his potential one reason for that is his age,agar is an average coach who never played at the highest level so how can he tell fitz and shaun long how the game can be played and when we finish around 7th again this year and then start losing these sort of players to leeds and bradford, and if you want an example joe westerman was released by hull a few years back with a few more younger players to afford the great success adam dykes, Brian Noble or Steve mcnamara for 2012
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| Quote ="easthullairliebird"briscoe is a talent that is still no where near his potential one reason for that is his age,agar is an average coach who never played at the highest level so how can he tell fitz and shaun long how the game can be played and when we finish around 7th again this year and then start losing these sort of players to leeds and bradford, and if you want an example joe westerman was released by hull a few years back with a few more younger players to afford the great success adam dykes, Brian Noble or Steve mcnamara for 2012'"
name a successful coach that played at the top level, there are not that many.
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| Quote ="easthullairliebird"Steve mcnamara for 2012'"
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| Quote ="easthullairliebird"Thank god Rich agar can,t get his hands on them yet he,ll soon turn them from promising to below average Rich( the only coach what regresses talent and stifles skill) Agar, by the time they can play for fc he will hopefully be back coaching york or gateshead'"
Houghton.
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| Quote ="flezmundo"d040.gif'"
My thoughts exactley!
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| Quote ="easthullairliebird"briscoe is a talent that is still no where near his potential one reason for that is his age,agar is an average coach who never played at the highest level so how can he tell fitz and shaun long how the game can be played and when we finish around 7th again this year and then start losing these sort of players to leeds and bradford, and if you want an example joe westerman was released by hull a few years back with a few more younger players to afford the great success adam dykes, Brian Noble or Steve mcnamara for 2012'"
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| Quote ="easthullairliebird"briscoe is a talent that is still no where near his potential one reason for that is his age,agar is an average coach who never played at the highest level so how can he tell fitz and shaun long how the game can be played and when we finish around 7th again this year and then start losing these sort of players to leeds and bradford, and if you want an example joe westerman was released by hull a few years back with a few more younger players to afford the great success adam dykes, Brian Noble or Steve mcnamara for 2012'"
Did Joe Westerman not leave as more money was on offer at Cas ?
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| I think Cas got promoted the year he left and it was his hometown club hence him going there
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| Quote ="Standee"name a successful coach that played at the top level, there are not that many.'"
Apart from Iestyn Harris were any of the current crop of Super League Head Coaches truly great players?
The old 'Agar never played in any finals' thing does my head in.
Neither did Jose Mourinho but he seems to have picked up a bit of knowledge from reading books and playing on Fifa!!
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| Shame is very very few make it to Hull Fc , perhaps 1 player per age group. There was a Hull Boys team that won everything there could to win and the only player from there was Craig Hall. But when you saw them at U13 beat Lancs champs you would have said 4-5 will play. Well in Hull they find beer and birds sorry to say.
The greatest Skirlaugh team that won all to win at U12 still only has 2-3 players in Hull Fc U19s . Maybe 1 from that age group will make it ??
I wish I knew the answer as to why we can't develop a world class 7 from the council estates of Hull ?
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Shame is very very few make it to Hull Fc , perhaps 1 player per age group. There was a Hull Boys team that won everything there could to win and the only player from there was Craig Hall. But when you saw them at U13 beat Lancs champs you would have said 4-5 will play. Well in Hull they find beer and birds sorry to say.
The greatest Skirlaugh team that won all to win at U12 still only has 2-3 players in Hull Fc U19s . Maybe 1 from that age group will make it ??
I wish I knew the answer as to why we can't develop a world class 7 from the council estates of Hull ?'"
Well the 1-6-7-13 of East Hull Under 14's looked like they could go on to better things ( believe the aforementioned Parker was the 13), we can but hope
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"Apart from Iestyn Harris were any of the current crop of Super League Head Coaches truly great players?
The old 'Agar never played in any finals' thing does my head in.
Neither did Jose Mourinho but he seems to have picked up a bit of knowledge from reading books and playing on Fifa!!'"
mourinho learnt his trade under Bobby Robson, agar learnt his under john kear
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"mourinho learnt his trade under Bobby Robson, agar learnt his under john kear'"
Correct.
Bobby Robson = England Manager, Cup Winning Club Manager
John Kear = England Manager, Cup Winning Club Coach.
It's a good comparison you make there.
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| Quote ="Digger_the_Dog"Correct.
Bobby Robson = England Manager, Cup Winning Club Manager
John Kear = England Manager, Cup Winning Club Coach.
It's a good comparison you make there.
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I was actually thinking:
Bobby Robson - footballing legend
john kear - quick fingered norris look alike
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| Quote ="FCTID"Well the 1-6-7-13 of East Hull Under 14's looked like they could go on to better things ( believe the aforementioned Parker was the 13), we can but hope'"
We can but hope ! very appropriate but soemthing has to happen on a massive scale at FC and Rovers.
I was heavily involved at Youth level up to 2 years ago and I believe thinking has to change at U11 onwards.
FC should take 12-20 boys and coach them 3x a week from U11 and let them train with their own teams once a week. FC need to train on skills from day 1 and get the boys obsessed with skill work. By u13 they should be training 5 x a week with FC and only playing for their teams. Also FC should review the boys on scholarship every year as the 20 strong squad at U12 will be at least 50% different at U16.
Costs for FC would be big but very rewarding
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Quote ="FCTID"Well the 1-6-7-13 of East Hull Under 14's looked like they could go on to better things ( believe the aforementioned Parker was the 13), we can but hope'"
We can but hope ! very appropriate but soemthing has to happen on a massive scale at FC and Rovers.
I was heavily involved at Youth level up to 2 years ago and I believe thinking has to change at U11 onwards.
FC should take 12-20 boys and coach them 3x a week from U11 and let them train with their own teams once a week. FC need to train on skills from day 1 and get the boys obsessed with skill work. By u13 they should be training 5 x a week with FC and only playing for their teams. Also FC should review the boys on scholarship every year as the 20 strong squad at U12 will be at least 50% different at U16.
Costs for FC would be big but very rewarding'"
Great idea, surely with the state of the British game, money, say 50% of cost, should be made available from the RFL, there must be funds somewhere in the game, we have to invest in these kids, or we'll be having the same 'ashes failure' debates for another 30 years
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I was actually thinking:
Bobby Robson - footballing legend
john kear - quick fingered norris look alike'"
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| Quote ="Standee"name a successful coach that played at the top level, there are not that many.'"
Wayne Bennett
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