so who watched it?
cant believe it ended in a draw but well done to them all, i thought Robinson and Tomkins did really well and another match saving tackle from Briscoe

Its a England game and doesnt matter what clubs they play for as long as they ALL tackle.

Very impressed with the first half showing were England looked very strong. 2nd half we just struggled to contain them.

Losing one of you 3 props in the first 10 wont have helped and the jetlag factor is always there for teams first games on tour but a few players looked suspect defensively in the 2nd half.

We also looked a far less attacking threat without Tomkins on the pitch in the 2nd half.

obv! and just saying

I think he's just a bit moody today cos he got up early!!

haha yeah

lol jk

hope Morley and Tomkins will be ok, last thing they need and its weird seeing Sam B again lol

I blame Agar for the second half performance.

How did tom play ?

can we have rangi chase...please!!!!!

I don't think he got a pass all game. Carried the ball well out of his own 20, didn't get tested from any kicks and saved a certain try with a ball steal. Couldn't have done any more but I still think his defensive positional play is poor

not too disapointed with the performance, result doesnt really matter. I think the lack of a forward rotation we had was what was the undoing, with morley going off so early and westwood having to play as a prop instead of out wide.

I thought the combinations looked good at times in the 1st half, robinson also looked good at replacement hooker and think him and roby have a good combo there. Surprised how well Atkins went to be honest. Think Tom will struggle for good ball from Shenton this tour, will have to do a lot of scooting just to see it I think

First half I thought we looked very good; hitting the ball at pace and with a dynamism I hope will continue in the games to come. Burgess and Ellis just look on a different level to our other players; surely a real indication to our better players that testing themselves in the NRL will improve them.

Widdop looked the part to me, and Robinson looked like he wanted to seize the opportunity.

morley looks like being out of the tour according to 5 live so we need another captain and suddenly it looks like fielden will have a big role to play

fly lynch over

I'd play Robinson at 7 and Tomkins at 6 . Brown can carry the kicking tee , Totally out of his depth.

Wasnt the best from Brown was it? Bring Lunt onto the bench to spell Roby and tighten things up in the middle shame we couldnt give him a run out today.

lol

for those bothered it's just started again on sky sports 4

Anyone know what's written on the back of the NZ players shirts? It had their names and then something else, maybe their NZ name??

I think it is their name but in the Maori language.

Thought Briscoe did what was needed of him saved a try, carried the ball strongly and was solid in defence needs more service from Shenton. Hope Moz is ok if he's out then our slim hopes of winning the 4 nations will disappear.

Thought Shenton could have put him away in the 1st half following the break from Burgess.

Was pleasantly surprised about how strong we looked. Our backs for example punched holes. Atkins and Hall looked very strong.

i think they will be alright and i think the score will just make them try that bit harder

Agree. Must feel comfortable in this isolated role. Home from home. What's wrong with English centres - are they all plain thick? Or is it the coaches for wasting Tom? Agar, close season essay: "Compare and contrast - Brains =#000080and skill versus brains =#000080or skill - working within the confines of limited expenditure, how best to maximise these assets?"

Tom did well with his cheeky offload for the second try and foxey steal to save the game. Just needs to start chucking up his arm and yelling with a grimace a la Faumuina.

With fielden and Graham to come in we've got cover.