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| On the terraces last night it was the hot topic - "They should bring in Webster"
What, if anything is actually preventing Hull FC from doing this?
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| Salary cap? Quota? The fact that he probably wouldn't make that much difference?
He would probably have improved our kicking game last night, but he wouldn't have prevented us from missing 20-odd tackles and only completing just over half of our sets. Lack of half backs is not helping matters, but the problems last night were much more profound.
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| Following the Catalans game and Long's injury, Richard Agar said regarding Webster playing:
Quote I think James has big ideas about it, but that's just an indication of how keen James is and his enthusiasm for the club, but at this stage I don't have any thoughts of playing him. We're probably not far off, but there's lots of things like salary cap, the fact he's not played for a long time and we've got some other fit and well players, so at the moment it's not something we're considering.'"
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| And Widnes still hold his playing registration ,,,,,just to make sure he cant play for anyone else without a fee being paid !!!!!!
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| Quote ="Cridling stubb xii member"And Widnes still hold his playing registration ,,,,,just to make sure he cant play for anyone else without a fee being paid !!!!!!'"
How does that work? A club can hold a players registration when they are not his employer? Bizarre.
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| I for one wouldn't be at all suprised if Webster did play on Thursday.
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| I seriously hope he does play after last night's debacle.We badly need some leadership out on the field.
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| I don't know why people think Webster is going to be the answer. He hasn't played for ages and hasn't played SL for much longer. Add to that the fact that he was never what you would call a brilliant half back anyway, and it seems fairly clear that playing him will make little difference to our predicament.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I don't know why people think Webster is going to be the answer. He hasn't played for ages and hasn't played SL for much longer. Add to that the fact that he was never what you would call a brilliant half back anyway, and it seems fairly clear that playing him will make little difference to our predicament.'"
Whilst he's never been the most gifted half back to play the game; he is a great leader and IMO you need that on the pitch.
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| Quote ="Pudsey Robin"Whilst he's never been the most gifted half back to play the game; he is a great leader and IMO you need that on the pitch.'"
We've got leaders. Fitzgibbon for example - thats not the problem.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Salary cap? Quota? The fact that he probably wouldn't make that much difference?
He would probably have improved our kicking game last night, but he wouldn't have prevented us from missing 20-odd tackles and only completing just over half of our sets. Lack of half backs is not helping matters, but the problems last night were much more profound.'"
salary cap you can get round by giving him a pay as you play contract or something like radlinski had at wigan were he plays for nothing but still gets his coaching pay packet....as for quota ..has he not got a british passport... thats why he was waiting around to play last time wasnt it??
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| Quote ="its all black and white"salary cap you can get round by giving him a pay as you play contract or something like radlinski had at wigan were he plays for nothing but still gets his coaching pay packet....as for quota ..has he not got a british passport... thats why he was waiting around to play last time wasnt it??'"
If he plays his salary goes on the the cap for the rest of the season.
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| Webster is an organiser, something you clearly lack without Long.
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| Quote ="its all black and white"salary cap you can get round by giving him a pay as you play contract or something like radlinski had at wigan were he plays for nothing but still gets his coaching pay packet....'"
Actually, you can't. The minute he plays a game, all of his coaching salary will count on the salary cap. As far as I understand it, anyway.
Quote ="its all black and white"as for quota ..has he not got a british passport... thats why he was waiting around to play last time wasnt it??'"
It would depend on the 'fed-trained' thing. I don't know how we'd stand on that, to be honest.
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| We need direction on the field, Webster may give us that, we cant do any worse than try but overall its Agars fault for putting his all eggs in one basket this season with Long, no plan B all year.
Its not rocket science Rule: 2 new halfbacks and a frigging coach!!
As regards salary cap, no one on here knows how much weve spent no matter how much they think theyre in the know. Only the board and Rule the tool have that info. This club has never spent money in abundance so how people can come to the conclusion weve spent the full £1.6m is beyond me.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Webster is an organiser, something you clearly lack without Long.'"
Webster [iwas[/i an organiser. And he was so good at SL level that Rovers replaced him with Dobson. Since then, he's played only national league rugby (unless you count the one game he played for Hull), and not very recently at that.
I'm not knocking the guy, but I really don't think he's the answer. If you're trying to bring back someone like Allan Langer (not now, obviously) to bail you out, then it might be worth a punt. But Webster was only ever average and his best days are long behind him.
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| If Webster didn't get injured he would have been our 7 until at least the end of that season and then who knows what would have happened.
If in the short term you want some direction around the park and a good short kicking game then you have the right man but like I say only a short term fix
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| Quote ="Bal"We've got leaders. Fitzgibbon for example - thats not the problem.'"
Fitz looked like he was crocked after the game, limping badly
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"If Webster didn't get injured he would have been our 7 until at least the end of that season and then who knows what would have happened. '"
Yes. I'm sure Rovers would have got rid of a player they were intending to keep the following season just because he picked up an injury. He'd been a loyal servant to Rovers for many years, they wouldn't have just ditched him because he was injured unless they were planning to get rid anyway.
Quote ="MrPhilb"If in the short term you want some direction around the park and a good short kicking game then you have the right man but like I say only a short term fix'"
If he had been playing SL relatively recently, I'd agree. But he hasn't played at all for ages, and when he did it was in the Championship. At his best, he'd have been a decent option for cover. But those days are long gone. He'll be as rusty as hell and a yard or two off the pace. That wouldn't improve things one jot.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Fitz looked like he was crocked after the game, limping badly'"
Ankle strapped up - Lee Richardson and Craig Murdock reckoned could be a recurrence of a previous achilles injury.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Ankle strapped up - Lee Richardson and Craig Murdock reckoned could be a recurrence of a previous achilles injury.'"
could be out for a while
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Webster [iwas[/i an organiser. And he was so good at SL level that Rovers replaced him with Dobson. Since then, he's played only national league rugby (unless you count the one game he played for Hull), and not very recently at that.
I'm not knocking the guy, but I really don't think he's the answer. If you're trying to bring back someone like Allan Langer (not now, obviously) to bail you out, then it might be worth a punt. But Webster was only ever average and his best days are long behind him.'"
Totally agree there about webster
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| Quote ="wolfie"could be out for a while'" oh bloody hell could of done without him getting injured any chance of o meley or moa been back for the derby?
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| Quote ="Andrea FC"oh bloody hell could of done without him getting injured
any chance of o meley or moa been back for the derby?'"
Moa should be back but o meley not back till harlequins
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| Absolutely NO!
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