If Tickle goes....do we promote Burnett to starting line up,Buy another 2nd rower or push Fitz up and use Washbrook or Whiting?

Personally would use Whiting at 13 with Fitz moved to 2nd row....Whiting is suited to 13 play...reads game well,Tackles above his weight and has the Handling skills to make a great 13.

Thoughts please.

Agar likes to play a 3rd prop at 13 so if it's not Fitz it will be Radford.

Agreed unfortunately, it's not the way we play.
For me, Washy is by far our best 13. Whiting i would see more as a 2nd rower or 6.

I'd have said the same about Washy last year. On this years performances however i think Whiting should get the nod at 13 ahead of him. Wont happen though.

Was thinking that when i typed it out....bloody wastye if you ask me,ok im from the old school of 13's...Knocker,Divorty,Miller,Pinner,Pearce..etc etc.......Just think a ball handling 13 is a huge asset to any team.

Agreed, think Whiting would really gives us an edge with him at 13 as he is such a smart player but as you say Agar for some reason prefers to play using 13 as a prop.

Would love to see Whiting have a go at 6 than Turner and Washy.....agree about 2nd row and leave Fitz at 13.

Based on what really though? Whiting has never played at 13 and Washy has only played there for about 15 minutes this season! And he made 3 breaks.

I would really like to see Whiting at 6 and Washy at 13. We could even play Horne at right centre!

11. Whiting
12. Manu
13. Fitzgibbon

16. Lauaki

back up
Burnett
Kent
Cunningham

as much as I like washy he doesn't suit agars system, might be better for him if he moves on.

Based on Whitings ability and his attributes. I think with Whiting in that middle channel as a ball player we would look smarter in attack and defence. I agree about Washy by the way and have been one of his biggest advocates, just think Whiting has the edge currently.

NO NO NO Sheldon!!! We've agreed that Whiting is going to 6!

I just think that trying something new as opposed to something that has been proven to work in the past is a bit too much.

Don't matter anyway, we know that if Fitz doesn't stay it will go back to being Radford!

not me bud, thought he should have been cover there last season but not now, his move to second row should start as soon as the season finishes (training wise)

I think there are times/games when a 3rd prop is the better option, but in the main I would much prefer to see the likes of Whiting or Washy there, even if it is just to break the predictability of our game play.

Hasnt that been the case for 2 years now but then we get an injury crisis in the backs?

All players who could pop up in the right place or create something out of nothing

Our 13 is a channelled centre player though, well Fitzy does stray a bit more than Radders but you get my drift.

That was back in the day of the 5 yard rule , the 10 metre ruling has changed the game dramatically.

The day of the LF with guile has gone somewhat.

There seems to be a move by some clubs to get as many battering style forward players on the pitch as possible now.

I don't think he's had the right pre season to be moved into the pack, I'd like to see him bulk up a little.

I would like to see Whiting given a run there.

However I would have him at centre in front of Turner and Hall if we keep the same side as next year.

what really hacks me off is that we look alot more dangerous in attack when we have Washbrook at 13...and i doubt that would change if Whiting played there instead sometimes

IMO there should [uonly [/ube washbrook or whiting selected for 13. it's just a shame Agar wants a more boring brand of RL

besides, if whiting or washy played at 13 regularly then they would improve their game hell of alot over a season - we have only been allowed glimpses of the potential

I would buy, because Whiting is not a 13 (possibly the best utility player in SL) and Washy is simply not good enough...

I favour the extra forward, however only if we have 2 good pivots, the problem is we do not have 2 good pivot men.

we play with 3 and have 3.

1. Tansey
6. Horne
7. Long

I said good

...I only see 1 there who plays regular rugby and he is full-back...Granted Long is good when he plays, Horney is finished imo, a couple of good games upto now is not good enough at this level.

However if you believe we had 3 who are good enough and play regular rugby Agar is right to play 13 as an extra forward, unless you want a team full of pivots

Washy was discussed as a future GB 13 when he last had a full season there for FC.