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| Why can't he run the ball in at full pelt? He takes the ball well and tackles well but for some reason he just stops when he is running it back.
Or is it just me?
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| Quote ="hullbg"Why can't he run the ball in at full pelt? He takes the ball well and tackles well but for some reason he just stops when he is running it back.
Or is it just me?'"
To get a quick play the ball?
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| Must be doing something right.
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| He is he is taking the ball well and tackling well but he just cannot run the ball back well. He takes it runs uo to the defence does a little shuffle and gets tackled. The one time he ran it out with vigour was when he was behind the line and took it over the line.
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| Not a fullback IMO
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| Quote ="hullbg"He is he is taking the ball well and tackling well but he just cannot run the ball back well. He takes it runs uo to the defence does a little shuffle and gets tackled. The one time he ran it out with vigour was when he was behind the line and took it over the line.'"
because he HAD to get it over the line, a quick play the ball isn't as important there.
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| a quick ptb is not really important when a ref is not blowing for offsides either!!
It may be just me but i prefer a fullback who takes it in at full pelt.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Not a fullback IMO'"
The games changing.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Not a fullback IMO'"
Purely on the basis of his kick returns? Or are there other factors?
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| everything else seems good to me Kosh, apart from i dont think he moves the defensive line enough, We looked vulnerable at times tonight when Bradford did venture wide. We again looked short in numbers when they got it wide, luckily the sliding defence worked better tonight.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Purely on the basis of his kick returns? Or are there other factors?'"
Kick returns to me are the least of the factors that should constitute a fullback. i fear high kicks and his positional play. Would like to see Whiting at fullback for a good few game stint. Whiting is playing very well.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Kick returns to me are the least of the factors that should constitute a fullback. i fear high kicks and his positional play. Would like to see Whiting at fullback for a good few game stint. Whiting is playing very well.'"
I'm surprised at that. In the games I've seen he's been good with kicks and shown excellent positional awareness. Maybe he's just in a bad run of form?
Whiting is playing well, but doesn't want to be a fullback.
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| Tansey takes the ball well no denying that and he is pretty good under the high ball, obviously he does not get them all; because the advantage is always with the attacking player. The main gripe for me is his return.
Whiting is opposite lets the ball bounce too much but runs it back well.
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| I wonder what would happen if everybodys favorite coach Brian Smith decided to play a ball handling full back and a prop at loose?
He'd probably be a genius.
Tanseys positional play and confidence under the bomb will improve the more games he plays there.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Tansey takes the ball well no denying that and he is pretty good under the high ball, obviously he does not get them all; because the advantage is always with the attacking player. The main gripe for me is his return.
Whiting is opposite lets the ball bounce too much but runs it back well.'"
Who's return do you prefer?
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| Obviously prefer Whitings return but Tansey is better for me taking the ball on the full. Nice to have these gripes though
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm surprised at that. In the games I've seen he's been good with kicks and shown excellent positional awareness. Maybe he's just in a bad run of form?
Whiting is playing well, but doesn't want to be a fullback.'"
Don't get me wrong, i like Tansey as a player. I think he has a spark. But going back to the Wigan game, Tansey was woeful yet seems to have escaped criticism at the expense of others. I think Tansey is a 6, have always thought so. I think tonight he looked out of position a couple of times, but did not have a bad game to be fair. Just not sure of him at fullback. I would rather see Hall in the centres, but Whiting is a shoe in for a starting spot, and for me, it would be fullback as he has the brain and qualities that the position needs. Might therefore allow Hall at centre, and then maybe Tansey as an impact bench player. We have a large squad which is good and options, which is also good.
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| Sometimes has to play for time because his own team are still ambling back!
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| Quote ="StrickyArms"Sometimes has to play for time because his own team are still ambling back!
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Makes no sense, making more yards then slowing down would be more beneficial.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Obviously prefer Whitings return but Tansey is better for me taking the ball on the full. Nice to have these gripes though
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To summerise
Tansey has the better return BUT you prefer Whitings .
Interesting.
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| no you misunderstood. Tansey takes the ball on the full better (IE catching it) but Whiting runs it back better but lets the ball bounce before taking it.
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| I know so why does he "die" when he reaches (or they reach him) the opposition kick chasers! He got almost the 40 mtre line on a couple of occasions tonight.
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| You tell me Sticky thats my main gripe with Tansey. If he can improve that aspect and sorting the defensive line out he will be for me the complete full back.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Obviously prefer Whitings return but Tansey is better for me taking the ball on the full. Nice to have these gripes though
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I'd rather have it in the full backs hands then bouncing on the floor.
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| I dont disagree Sheldon, i just wish he would run it back better. If given the choice i would take the safety of Tansey over Whiting every day of the week. But i feel he can imporve as a player if he just gives it his all when returning the ball.
The sorting of the defensive line will come in time i have no doubt about that.
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