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| It’s over a week since the first snowfall and the state of the paths and (some) roads around the city are appalling. After taking the daughter to work this morning and seeing 2 people fall flat on their backs; the 1st a pensioner who had a severe cut to the back of his head, the other gent luckily only hurt his pride.
I have seen people holding onto lampposts, railings and even parked cars to stop themselves slipping over, there’s also people walking on the roads due to (some of ) them being less slippery.
Does the council not have a duty of care towards their residents?
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| Hudgell bought the franchise for the citys gritting and path clearing
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| Not been too bad where i am....got the car out easy and paths was gritted.....couldnt care less about anywhere else
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Hudgell bought the franchise for the citys gritting and path clearing
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I thought he bought the teeth gritting and Kath endearing franchise.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Not been too bad where i am....got the car out easy and paths was gritted.....couldnt care less about anywhere else'"
So you're not bothered about your relations ;parents,grandparents,aunty's,uncles etc?
I have elderly neighbours and they haven't been out of their house for over a week due to the state of the paths.
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| Got me nanna some snow chains for her motabilty scooter, no stopping her
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| Used to use unemployed for snow clearing when i was a lad,plenty of unemployed now.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Got me nanna some snow chains for her motabilty scooter, no stopping her'"
Any chance you can get some for mine I haven't left the house since last Tuesday cos I can't afford to have my 2 new hips dislocated
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| someone at work reckons that they don't clear paths anymore because as soon as they do they have to start taking responsibility for anyone falling on them. tbh i think that sounds pretty probably given the ridiculous compensation culture
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| Quote ="Bighead"someone at work reckons that they don't clear paths anymore because as soon as they do they have to start taking responsibility for anyone falling on them. tbh i think that sounds pretty probably given the ridiculous compensation culture'"
thats near enough the truth.
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"So you're not bothered about your relations ;parents,grandparents,aunty's,uncles etc?
I have elderly neighbours and they haven't been out of their house for over a week due to the state of the paths.'"
Went in town today and youngest nearly slipped...sure it was icey...you expect to slip on ice....so you want the council to grit all over......as for your neighbours...did you offer to help them?
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| Quote ="Bighead"someone at work reckons that they don't clear paths anymore because as soon as they do they have to start taking responsibility for anyone falling on them. tbh i think that sounds pretty probably given the ridiculous compensation culture'"
Spot on, if someone falls on ice its force majeur/act of god, if it's on a gritted path it's the persons responsibility who gritted it.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Went in town today and youngest nearly slipped...sure it was icey...you expect to slip on ice....so you want the council to grit all over......
=#0000FFSimple answer-I expect them to at least attempt to help the situation
as for your neighbours...did you offer to help them?
=#0000FFI have put their bins out and also brought them in again after the lazy bin men left them 300 yards further than where they found them. I have also been to the shops for them, that's not the point, these people are almost house-bound due to path clearing deficiences'"
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"'"
Sooner them grit the roads than paths....end of the day...they cant grit every bloody street can thay
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Sooner them grit the roads than paths....end of the day...they cant grit every bloody street can thay'"
This isn't a 'street' this is Bricknell ave/Hotham Rd North we're talking about.
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| Where i live we have big bins at the top of every other street that used to have grit in them. Locals would then go with their wheel barrow and take the grit to do their own streets. I'm pretty sure the bins have been empty for years too. I'd happily grit my own street if it meant my daughter could go out on her new bike without the ice causing issues.
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"This isn't a 'street' this is Bricknell ave/Hotham Rd North we're talking about.'"
Oh thats different then isnt it....whats the difference between that and my street then...oh yeah mine got gritted...
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"This isn't a 'street' this is Bricknell ave/Hotham Rd North we're talking about.'"
Got gritted last week didnt they
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Oh thats different then isnt it....whats the difference between that and my street then...oh yeah mine got gritted...
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Would you still have the same attitude if it wasn't gritted, or if your daughter or a member of your family had been hurt due to falling on poor paths?
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Got gritted last week didnt they'"
The roads did, not the paths.
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"The roads did, not the paths.'"
Some paths did....
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"Would you still have the same attitude if it wasn't gritted, or if your daughter or a member of your family had been hurt due to falling on poor paths?'"
I dont expect the streets to be gritted as the roads are far more important imo...its icey and its expected that you will slip on them
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| I live in a remote village, and the lane to our house hasn't been gritted, and unlike previous years we've not been provided with grit so we can do it ourselves. hence the car is - literally - half a mile away, I can't get it to my house. It's at least 15 minutes to get to it every day. I've noticed the main trunk roads everywhere seem to be very well cleared, but the minor routes & pavements have been ignored. the same in Harrogate, and Leeds - some of the footpaths in Leeds are a disgrace.
i wonder if it's a country-wide policy - clear the trunk roads, leave the side roads? I wonder why?
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| Quote ="fc baldy"I dont expect the streets to be gritted as the roads are far more important imo...its icey and its expected that you will slip on them'"
So you're alright because you have a car, what about those that don't/can't drive?
My father has MS and he cannot get to his car because of the paths, and even if he did he wouldn't be able to get out of it because of the paths.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Spot on, if someone falls on ice its force majeur/act of god, if it's on a gritted path it's the persons responsibility who gritted it.'"
Not quite.
If it's a private drive or path and the postman slips after you've had a go at clearing snow, then that would be the case.
Areas that are accessed by the public are treated differently. Local authorities and private companies have a duty of care to ensure public access is safe. If they ignore that duty of care, then they could well be liable.
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