wonder what the odds are of hull fc and the tongan mafia finishing bottom of the fair play league this year. i do hope so lol

really?

I'd hope we can win games without violent and thuggish behaviour.

a bit of aggresion never goes a miss

indeed, within the rules of the game, which means a fair play league shouldn't have us near the bottom.

moan moan moan

Why is it moaning, you want to be without the services of players because they get bans for foul play?

Agression, targetted and chanelled, is absolutely fine, but not thuggishness or rule breaking.

he has a point though fans would be a bit peeved if we constantly get penalised.

Isn't it just Hame who has the bad reputation? Manu and Moa, Im not so sure about.

not fussed either way tbh

long as we bully the pack like we used to

Indeed, we need to be strong and forceful, and feared for going in hard AND FAIR, I don't want a reputation like Huddersfield had a few seasons ago where they basically ruined the game by constant offside, laying on and high shots. I want to see Rugby.

looking at our props we should rattle a few cages in super league

I think we will, I have no real concerns about our forwards next season, my main concern is our centres/wing, but they've been that devoid of service for the last two seasons that's difficult to really judge them.

think we are looking good for centres tbh

we have longy who will use them more

We have the pack to bully most without resorting to dirty play, catalans let themselves down this way. Although i am looking forward to our games against the likes of Hudds, Cats, Leeds and Wire for this reason

What odds would you like?

BRING BACK THE BIFF.

Can see a few punch ups next season but our pack wont be bullied now and can see us dominating a few teams....we will have the likes of Lauaki,Moa,Manu,Cusack...coming off the bench to give it more aggression.

If Agar learns about "tactical substitutions" from someone!

cant wait for the humble pie mate

I'm sure he wont mind eating it if Agar learns to make decent substitutions!!

should taste very nice

My only concern regarding the amount of penalties we give away with O'Meley and Lauiaki's style of aggressive play . Is these will be on top of the needless amount of penalties that Radford and Tickle contribute to the total.

With all this talk of new players id forgotten those wastes of space still play for us.

St Helens (2nd) and Hull KR (3rd) proved last season that you can finish high in the Fairplay Index AND the Super League table.

Hopefully we can boss games in the forwards next season without gifting the opposition penalties and potentially have players miss games due to suspension.

i hope we see good rugby, that goes without saying. and i agree we don't want to get a bad reputation regarding the way we play

However if we have the odd game were a result is out of our grasps and a defeat is imminent (yeah right) then i wouldn't object to Lauaki and o'meley battering people for the hell of it.... fitz has got some good elbows in his artillery as well, it would be a shame not to use them..

i'm on the side of the fence were a bit/loads of biff is deemed good entertainment... by the way. i appreciate the biff is not to eveyones liking