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| So have we?
I will be first to say yes I think we have, I openly asked for LR to go, but recent results, and the manner of them would suggest we are on an upward trajectory.
I know KR has players missing but that was dominant, powerful, creative rugby.
Best game performance I've seen for some time, the fact it was KR was just a bonus.
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| Yes, I think that is definitely the case. What's that now, 6 from 8 or something like that?
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| The best thing about this win apart from the dominance, we were actually exciting to watch.
Price and Sneyd are playing really well together. People moaned that we paid £100k for Sneyd. But that's what it took to secure a proper 7s services and I believe it will prove to be money well spent.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Yes, I think that is definitely the case. What's that now, 6 from 8 or something like that?'"
7 from 9 I believe.
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| Theres still an awful lot to do before this season can be deemed a success, but the signs are really positive. I think that Warrington win and the confidence it gave us was a huge moment in our season.
I still have my doubts about Radford but for now full credit to him for taking the criticism on the chin and working hard to put things right.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"7 from 9 I believe.'"
Given how poor your form was before that, then it's a hair pin bend of a corner.
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| Nah, just papering over the cracks
7 from 9 IMO means we have to stop doubting Radford and start supporting the bloke
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| To early to say a corner has been turned, I think. We are still likely to be sat outside the eight after the Magic weekend. That said, things are looking much brighter than after the last derby.
Next Thursday is a massive game for us.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Nah, just papering over the cracks
7 from 9 IMO means we have to stop doubting Radford and start supporting the bloke'"
I agree.
I for one will be going back to home games after missing a couple this season due to the way we were playing.
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| It's the kind of win that instills more confidence, which hopefully in turn gives us more edge in games rather than downbeat after a few losses.
5 wins from 7 in the league is a good starting point from whence to go forward.
Our attack was, let's be honest the worst in SL considering the players on the park.
So in terms of attack, it looks like we have turned a corner from the Warrington game and it's great for the fans to see so we have something to look forward to knowing we can score tries and good ones at that.
Maintaining the momentum is the key, making sure players don't go back into their shells when under duress during hard games when the chips are down is vitally important.
At this moment in time we can only congratulate LR and the players for turning it around, we all hope it continues in a similar vein.
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| Yes.
This season started with some of the worst rugby I've seen FC play. We were abysmal. No clue, no idea, no effort.
The Castleford cup game was the start of a revival. Since then, we've started to look like a Super League club again. And that game against KR was a fantastic performance.
I'm still not convinced about Radford, but something has changed, because we look like we give a toss now. The players clearly have an understanding; the effort is there; there is a belief amongst the players.
We have turned a corner. Lets push on!
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Nah, just papering over the cracks
7 from 9 IMO means we have to stop doubting Radford and start supporting the bloke'"
5 from 7 if we are comparing against the previous 2 wins from 8 in the league.
There's nothing wrong with having doubts, there's nothing wrong with having criticism's, you'll find if you look through the threads of the last several weeks maybe a couple of comments regarding player selection are all the criticism directed at Radford, bar none fans have said we've improved and look nothing like we were previously.
And actually papering over the cracks with shaky unconvincing wins WAS exctly that, our attack was dire, if it weren't for some great solid defence and some individual brilliance we'd have being fooked. Yes the results were inportant in those games we pulled out wins, some might even say fortunate but a win is a win.
However you can only get away with that so many times hence why fans were saying those wins were papering over the cracks, the cracks of our lame attack.
That's now (hopefully) being fixed, fans have more confidence going into games, we are applauding better structure and backing up, thoughtful rugby whereas before we just didn't have that by comparison add onto that more desire and you have what we have now.
Instead of the continuance of attacking fans/posters whom post their critical thoughts openly about how we've being (notice past tense) and Radford's inability to coach us over the last 18 months (& rightly so) why not stick to the here and now so we can all focus on discussing the improved performances and the usual minutea of following our team.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"5 from 7 if we are comparing against the previous 2 wins from 8 in the league.
There's nothing wrong with having doubts, there's nothing wrong with having criticism's, you'll find if you look through the threads of the last several weeks maybe a couple of comments regarding player selection are all the criticism directed at Radford, bar none fans have said we've improved and look nothing like we were previously.
And actually papering over the cracks with shaky unconvincing wins WAS exctly that, our attack was dire, if it weren't for some great solid defence and some individual brilliance we'd have being fooked. Yes the results were inportant in those games we pulled out wins, some might even say fortunate but a win is a win.
However you can only get away with that so many times hence why fans were saying those wins were papering over the cracks, the cracks of our lame attack.
That's now (hopefully) being fixed, fans have more confidence going into games, we are applauding better structure and backing up, thoughtful rugby whereas before we just didn't have that by comparison add onto that more desire and you have what we have now.
Instead of the continuance of attacking fans/posters whom post their critical thoughts openly about how we've being (notice past tense) and Radford's inability to coach us over the last 18 months (& rightly so) why not stick to the here and now so we can all focus on discussing the improved performances and the usual minutea of following our team.'"
You must have missed the winky face Bumpy. I was kidding with the cracks comments. You're a very serious individual aren't you?
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| For me it's less about the 7 from 9, more about 3 from 4 and the manner of those 4. Much better, and whilst I'm still hesitant to consider the corner turned until it carries on a bit longer (probably a dollop of pessimism and lack of confidence in there), the fact that a case can even be made for it now is a massive improvement in itself.
Huge credit to Radford for being big enough to change his approach and our style.
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| Good to see the two new halves bedding in. Was always going to take time particularly when one was out for a few games.
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| We now have our halves settling in.more of the same for me
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| Again , Got to be backed up on Thursday but yeah , Heading in the right direction .
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"7 from 9 IMO means we have to stop doubting Radford and start supporting the bloke'"
It's actually possible to do both.
I don't think there's any doubt that [ia[/i corner has been turned and we're heading in the right direction. Still likely to be a few bumps along the way, mind, but the outlook is unrecognisably more positive than a few weeks ago. If we can go to Widnes next week and come away with a win then I might start believing that we can make the 8 for the first time in a long while.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"You must have missed the winky face Bumpy. I was kidding with the cracks comments. You're a very serious individual aren't you?'"
About certain things of course, aren't you?
I say stuff with conviction and make sure I'm clear about what I say and why, if that's what you mean, how is one supposed to post regarding things like the clubs progress given how it effects everything that is discussed here?
Do you not think being in freefall and turmoil playing micturate poor rugby it's always serious?
Those of us with it in our blood are effected by how we perform, that shows in the way people post on the forum when you discuss the problems/failures.
We can enjoy and let go when things are going great as now but to dig up stuff given the spats on here isn't particularly funny considering the bile and disgusting words used by some posters just because they didn't agree with comments by others.
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| We're definitely better with the ball and it actually looks like the players see each other between games. Hopefully we can get a win on Thursday which should see us in with a really good shout of the top 8
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| Been one of the team and Radfords biggest critics, but we've deffo turned a corner. Today's game was the first time for ages where I felt we really dominated a game and the players gave their all for 80mins. Hope fully we can end 2015 on a high and start 2016 with confidence
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| Looks like we're heading in the right direction,its not the results for mine,
its the manner of our performances, which augurs well for the future.
But.. our catch & pass still needs improving, if we are to challenge for the
bigger games later in the season.-IMO
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| Yes we have.
We are not Super League Champions or Challenge Cup winning material by a long way, but we have improved and continue to make progress and it is nice to see us clicking when on the attack.
I have also been one of those who was vocal in wanting Radford's removal. However, if we had replaced him after the Easter defeat to Rovers and replaced him with any of the various names we all suggested to see a 7 from 9 turnaround, we would all now be shouting from the roof tops on how justified such a decision had been. So well done Lee.
Time will tell, whether Lee goes on to lead us up the table and better fortunes. However, for now he has earned the right to take us through to the rest of the season and hopefully with an improved injury season he can now benefit from more consistent performances.
It will be great once we have the re-arranged Wakefield game played and hopefully with a win, it will put us in our true league position.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"We can enjoy and let go when things are going great as now but to dig up stuff given the spats on here isn't particularly funny considering the bile and disgusting words used by some posters.'"
Again - remind us all what you called Lee Radford a few weeks back. Hypocritical bullshine is your speciality.
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