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| [urlwww.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/24031251[/url
Of topic I know, but I lost count of the numbers of posters on here who claimed to know, FACT, he was going to rovers.
Can the board Mods please have a cull on some of these who persistently post lies on here. At least remind a few that a rumour isn't something that they make up
St's pack is going to be awesome next season.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"[urlwww.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/24031251[/url
Of topic I know, but I lost count of the numbers of posters on here who claimed to know, FACT, he was going to rovers.
Can the board Mods please have a cull on some of these who persistently post lies on here. At least remind a few that a rumour isn't something that they make up
St's pack is going to be awesome next season.'"
£50,000 Saints have paid for him, why the hell didn't we try outbid them?
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| Quote ="Whiting"£50,000 Saints have paid for him, why the hell didn't we try outbid them?'"
Who says we didn't?
Amor may not have wanted to come here.
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| Quote ="scarrie"Who says we didn't?
Amor may not have wanted to come here.'"
Brown is quoted as saying "Kyle is already one of the best front rowers in Super League" which is a position many of us agree needs strengthening. £50,000 is far less than we paid for Westerman, so i don't think we did as we wouldn't stop at 50.
I am not certain how it works but for example if we had offered Wakey £80,000 for him, why would it be Amor's choice to accept St Helens offer leaving Wakey with £30,000 less? You would assume Wakey would turn around to Sts and ask them to match our bid, irrelevant if he wants to come here or not.
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| I'm disappointed that we didn't get Amor as he is quality in a very small pool of available talent playing in a position we need to strengthen - particularly if Lynch is confirmed as a Cas player. He perfectly fits the bill that AP has outlined. It's too early to make a final call on it though as I don't know what next season's forward line up will be for us yet.
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| there's always the possibility that our management didn't want/require him, if our business is already done and cap full
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| Quote ="Whiting"I am not certain how it works but for example if we had offered Wakey £80,000 for him, why would it be Amor's choice to accept St Helens offer leaving Wakey with £30,000 less?'"
Because he's a person and not a piece of Claris Cliff?
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| Disappointing he's not coming here. saints dispelling the myth that you can't sign quality players in the current market
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| Quote ="Standee"Because he's a person and not a piece of Claris Cliff?'"
If you'd quoted the full post instead of trying to make yourself appear humorous, you would have seen me question why the owner of the "Claris Cliff" would accept a lower offer because the vase would prefer to go elsewhere. Don't quote me again unless you're seriously answering a question, you beautiful person.
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| Quote ="Whiting"If you'd quoted the full post instead of trying to make yourself appear humorous, you would have seen me question why the owner of the "Claris Cliff" would accept a lower offer because the vase would prefer to go elsewhere. Don't quote me again unless you're answering a question, you beautiful person.'"
you do know we abolished slavery some time ago, nobody "owns" a player, the two are not comparable, now don't engage if you don't like being shown up as a soft lad.
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| Quote ="Standee"you do know we abolished slavery some time ago, nobody "owns" a player, the two are not comparable, now don't engage if you don't like being shown up as a soft lad.'"
Do they or do they not own the playing rights of the player for the duration of his contract? The two are most comparable, soft lad
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| Quote ="Standee"you do know we abolished slavery some time ago, nobody "owns" a player, the two are not comparable, now don't engage if you don't like being shown up as a soft lad.'"
Oh and I engage in conversation with fellow fans of rugby league, not arguments with an overgrown turd attempting to look clever.
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| Quote ="the artist"there's always the possibility that our management didn't want/require him, if our business is already done and cap full'"
We are not at full cap. AP has said he's holding some back till after the World Cup.
Amor would have been a quality signing, dissapointed to have missed out if indeed we were trying to get him
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| Quote ="Whiting"Brown is quoted as saying "Kyle is already one of the best front rowers in Super League" which is a position many of us agree needs strengthening. £50,000 is far less than we paid for Westerman, so i don't think we did as we wouldn't stop at 50.
I am not certain how it works but for example if we had offered Wakey £80,000 for him, why would it be Amor's choice to accept St Helens offer leaving Wakey with £30,000 less? You would assume Wakey would turn around to Sts and ask them to match our bid, irrelevant if he wants to come here or not.'"
I don't know how it works either but I suppose it depends how mercenary Wakefield are feeling. Perhaps Amor stated his desire to join Saints but Saints wouldn't offer more than £50k. Wakefield then accepted Saints offer as a compromise between getting as much cash as possible and getting Amor a club he found acceptable. Just a possible scenario.
Wakefield seem a decent club so it seems plausible to me, I'd hope Hull would conduct themselves in a similar manner.
Of course it's possible we were never in for him but I don't see how we can lambast the club for not outbidding Sts when we don't really have a clue what went on.
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| i really thought we had him sorted to come here, especially when bludgell tried to stir it up by announcing in hull wail that they were offering 200,000 for him(as if you could believe that from a club without a pot to p in). pity cos i personally rate highly.
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| He probably watched our match against Saints on Friday. That would certainly have made his mind up.
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| amor was probably desperate to sign for us until he realised how nasty some fans can be on internet message boards
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| Quote ="Whiting"Do they or do they not own the playing rights of the player for the duration of his contract? The two are most comparable, soft lad
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Standee's right on this. Hypothetically, if we were in for him, if Amor just categorically refused to negotiate terms with us it wouldn't matter how much we offered to Wakey. Saints then have no reason to match our offer, regardless of how much Wakey stamp their feet.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Standee's right on this. Hypothetically, if we were in for him, if Amor just categorically refused to negotiate terms with us it wouldn't matter how much we offered to Wakey. Saints then have no reason to match our offer, regardless of how much Wakey stamp their feet.'"
Oh yeah I'm aware they couldn't force him to go to the highest bidder, my suspicions arise from the fee of only 50k. Surely Wakey would be very reluctant to accept a lower offer when they are so desperate for this 400k. It all suggests to me we weren't in the running for him, and if that's true I'm disappointed. Thanks for a reply that wasn't intended as a dig
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| Quote ="scarrie"I don't know how it works either but I suppose it depends how mercenary Wakefield are feeling. Perhaps Amor stated his desire to join Saints but Saints wouldn't offer more than £50k. Wakefield then accepted Saints offer as a compromise between getting as much cash as possible and getting Amor a club he found acceptable. Just a possible scenario.
Wakefield seem a decent club so it seems plausible to me, I'd hope Hull would conduct themselves in a similar manner.
Of course it's possible we were never in for him but I don't see how we can lambast the club for not outbidding Sts when we don't really have a clue what went on.'"
I am sure if we were in for him that could have very likely happened, it's just disappointing to see a good young, English prop (a position in which we are in need) go to a rival club for such a small fee. I'd like to see us be ruthless in the market as other teams would be, Wakefield's loss should be our gain, however sad it is for the sport.
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| Quote ="Whiting"Oh yeah I'm aware they couldn't force him to go to the highest bidder, my suspicions arise from the fee of only 50k. Surely Wakey would be very reluctant to accept a lower offer when they are so desperate for this 400k. It all suggests to me we weren't in the running for him, and if that's true I'm disappointed. Thanks for a reply that wasn't intended as a dig'"
How long did he have left on his contract though, wasn't it only a year? Reckon 50k wouldn't be far off the value of the remainder of his contract if so.
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| We should have made him a priority. Saints recruitment has been excellent so far.
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| Nothing changed from last season,he had the chance to join hull last season as well and didn't fancy it. Cant understand why,staying with wakey when he had the chance to join a big club like hull.
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| Maybe he just wanted to be closer to "home" in Cumbria?
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| Quote ="Pookie"Maybe he just wanted to be closer to "home" in Cumbria?'"
Maybe the case,but I think we have both missed out on the best available prop for different reasons.
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