Hall had a mare in the 1st, saying that, had he picked up the loose ball he wouldnt have been stopped, looked dangerous at times in the 2nd. briscoe was outstanding again, apart from the offload in the 1st half, which had calderwood taken he was away down the wing, and also the play straight from the kick off that he dropped.

Both Hornes were fantastic tonight, defence and attack. Lee's play for G Hornes second try was also very good and shows why he is keeping his place.

Sam Moa's 10minutes were also very good, but again, it was only 10 minutes, we need longer out of him. Manu was ok in fits and starts but overall i think our forwards were outplayed by Sargent and Feather. first game that our forwards were beaten, and we struggled at times. We looked dangerous when we used the ball, which we didnt do enough

We should have been getting the ball wide on the 3rd tackle as the forwards on the whole were not doing enough, chiming hall into the line like they were doing with Mcgoldrick.

Might be the kick up the bottom we need, and i fancy us against quins next week!!





P.S Thormans defence, and ability to slide is awful

rant over

I don't think any of the players could be described as outstanding or fantastic.

It was a very disappointing, error strewn display by Hull. Cas were the better team and looked much more threatening. It was a deserved win for them.

It's all about how we bounce back from the defeat - that will show us how good a team we are.

We looked very tired in the last 20 and our last tackle options were very poor.No pressure on them when chasing our own kicks and we seemed to play down the middle far too much.

The only team that beat us tonight was ourselves. No disrespect to Cas as they played consistent sets and took there chances. However if you take out the mistakes from Hull's game I am convinced we would have won the game.

When we were completing our sets and not giving away penalties Cas where struggling to make the Half way line. All there tries came on the back of penalties or mistakes.

Also I think tickle was unlucky to have one of his conversions dissallowed. to me it looked like it went over. The ball hit the top of the upright and landed in the in goal, surely this means it must have bounced insde the post, if it had hit the outside it would have landed in field.

fc played dumb rugby imo, passes that didn't need to be made, and passes that should've been made(yeaman), saying that, to lose by 1 point and outscore the opposition 4-3 while not being on top form i'm not too worried, just a bad day at the office, credit to cas they took the chances and were more respectful of the ball

So exactly like last season, then?

Oh goody.


A 'bad day at the office' that's seen us drop valuable home points and fail to top SL.

Very, very poor IMO.

first time this season that we've looked jaded and uninspired

I also felt in hindsight the bench was wrong, neither Lee or Moa had bad games, but i felt the pace and creativity of Washbrook would have offered more against a pacy Cas side.

it was sad to see that we went back to the 2008 attack of barge it up the middle as well. People keep putting Calderwood down, but he is lucky if he sees one pass a game and even thats usually a poor one near touch.

I think we are in need of reinforcements now, at least a quarter of our salary cap must be on the sidelines or awaiting a Visa and it began to show tonight.

BRING BACK THE PANIC BUTTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well firstly it was good close game with a poor ref who just didn't want to see the game flow (not blaming him for the loss).
Our pack was poor for me tonight with the exception of Dowes they didn't seem to be as up for it as in recent weeks.
Calderwood was poor again, his positions in attack at times was woeful, Hall had a poor game by recent standards, but hopefully he will pick himself up and learn from his errors, he is still bedding in as a full back so we have to give him time.
Tickle had a very poor game with the boot which is very uncharacteristic of him and it proved the difference in the end.
Briscoe always looked like making yards when he had the ball and had another decent game, great to see G Horne grabbing his tries.

At the end of the day Cas came with a game plan and stuck to it, i agree with Black & Whitely that we lost the game rather than them winning it. Silly things like when we where 18-12 up and had the penalty near the line, we really should have taken the 2 on offer as it would have given us that 2 score margin. Or Berro not setting up the 1 pointer on the last set we had.

We defended well for most of the game and lets hope we turn it around next week.

Some good points, but I disagree on Calders. Thought he had a great game in defence. Took maybe 1 or 2 wrong options but so did all of them. Was really impressed with his effort to support the opposite winger and had Tom's pass been better we would have been calling him a genius.

Also the penalty chance we had was at 14-12 if i recall and wouldn't have made much difference which is why they ran. The crucial kick was the one at 18-12 and tickle hit the post.

yep sorry it was 14-12 (hard to remember sometimes) and i now remember thinking he should run it.
I will agree to disagree RE Calderwood, but i just feel at times he is too flat in the line and would benefit a lot more if he stood even just a yard deeper.

From where i was sat in the east the drop goal we took looked over. And Tickles last conversion attempt was very unlucky indeed when it hit the post i thought it was gonna sneak inside but alas no

Not sure we had a penalty to go 20-12 up, think score was 14-12, anyway lets not take anything away from Cas, they wanted it more, as showed at the end when hooter went, you'ed have thought they'ed won GF and Cup on same night.

Good summary. I know I'm approaching stalker status in my hero worship of Dowes this season, but, stupid offload aside, I agree with Agar that he was our standout player again tonight. Him and Cusack are being overused and we need to spread the load with more minutes from Thackray and Moa. I agree that Washy might have brought something different but Lee did OK again. I'm not too despondent at the manner of the defeat and Cas looked good, it's just the frustration is compounded by the missed opportunity to go top. Big test of character next week and a nice 8 day turnaround.

You can see he is getting frustrated at not getting ball though. That was topped off by him running to the opposite side to get it. We are not playing to his strengths which is frustrating. Put this guy through a gap or stand the ball up in goal and he will get hatfuls of tries. At the minute he is just being expected to run the ball in all the time and act as Yeamans dummy runner.

I agree, our backs did more running from dummy half tonight then the forwards made runs (or it seemed that way)
The fact the forwards didn;t make the platform for the backs to perform meant the backs went looking for it more as well.

Can't disagree with any of that, and I do believe if Yeaman had given the ball to Briscoe we would have gone on to win quite comfortably

We thought it was from the South/East corner but as the people sat directly behind the goal weren't going mental at Halibut then we presumed it had missed!!

It was'nt even close, I was right behind it.

Which is why we looked at you all for the reaction!!! When you did nothing we knew it'd missed!!

Never even noticed the South stand lot (note to self check other sections after a drop goal or goal kick

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Before anyone takes it the wrong way, i mean i don't pay much attention to them during the game not that they weren't noticable.

Turning point of the game. Nothing like giving the opposition a lift with a balls up like that.

Did,nt we get a penalty for offside on next play, tapped and Horne scored on other side ???? remember saying 'thank fook we've scored'

Thought Manu did absolutely nothing to help him all night. Manu kept missing the tackle leaving Thorman 1 on 1 with the runner twice his size.

From my point of view that is exactly how I'm feeling and how I see it

Just dreading the hammer I'm going to get off the legion of Cas fans at work in the morning

People keep going on about Hulls error strewn game, but if Cas hadnt made so many errors in our 20 in the first half they may well have been out of sight by half time. The difference is we went on to continue making them in the second, where as they cut them out and had more gas left as a result.