Both have been very poor in the last 2 games. Not sure what the completion rate was today but would be surprised if we were more than 60%

Cost us last week, could have cost us this week and needs sorting ASAP

Agreed

I agree.

Our saving grace was our line defence and the fact that HKR were as bad as us.

1st couple of games this season, we valued the ball, we seem to have slipped into our old habits again.

The fact that it was a Derby and we were desperate to break a losing run is a mitigating factor IMO, but I generally agree. We must be one of the worst sides around for being able to pin the opposition in their half and apply sustained pressure.

Definitely work to be done there.

Balls to it being a derby........should improve no matter who we are playing.

I made a similar point on the 'defence' thread. Our attacking play in general needs work, but particularly completion rate and discipline. Some of the offloads (Radford's springs to mind) were just stupid.

Spot on.

Are you crackers? Derbies are different games altogether.

Pack it in, you're messing with my head

What was the excuse for the same last week?

I think we've been poor with ball in hand for a few games now .The 1st half today was shocking imo. No dummy runners , Hardly any support play, Player's receiving the ball stood still. Until we speed our play the ball and passing up , Players are going to get the ball with the defender on him straight away which leaves no time for the offload.

Edited for accuracy

Bang on the money!!!

Could be improved with decent preparation.

But,this has been consistent for so long now, can't see it being fixed
for another 2 years- at least!!

I wasn't making excuses.



There was a mitigating factor today, none last week or in the Crusaders game. It can't be basic skills as we [ican[/i play without these faults in the odd game. Must be a mental thing.

Whatever it is, it needs fixing.

Could you describe exactly what our preparation consists of ?
I don't get down to training and would be interested in hearing from someone who clearly does.

better than us on both counts today

I doubt we completed more sets and I'd be amazed if we conceded less penalties although silverwood did try and even them up at the end of each half

you know, even though I agree with you completely, I'm just glad to put one over on rovers. I haven't watched the game again with any semblance of even-mindedness but during the game I thought that on the "what the hell was that for?" penalty front I think we came off second-best and did well to hold them out after squandering the possession you speak of. Well done FC.

I was particularly thinking about the "why the hell did you force that pass" moments

hmmm - I can't quite make out whether I want to applaud them for attempting to play open rugby or shoot them for being s

Open rugby is fine but not 20-30 yards from your own line.

shoot them it is then....

although Saints in their hey-day....

... did it properly.



We're getting there. Without so many penalties against we would have had far more ball. That's what we need to work on IMO. But our players need fair protection from the ref.

Thought the offload that Radford attempted was really unlucky when it came of that jammy sods Vella's foot.

Saying that, they did drive me mad with poor offloads and daft penalties.

At least we got a couple of sneaky ball steals in.

As regards discipline, it's embarrassing that an experienced international footballer wasn't brought back on the field because we couldn't risk him giving away any penalties. I know that KR were roughing him up every tackle but he just can't react in a petulant way. He could do worse than lookat Sean Long who was targetted repeatedly with late hits but stuck to his game.

Fair play to Agar; made the right call to leave Laaki on the bench and replace Tickle with Radford. Hame has so much to offer; just needs to be disciplined.