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| Read on twitter the last couple of days that three players have been selected for the England Academy squad (although not sure if they are all in the same age group)
Harry Tyson Wilson
Jordan Lane
Jansin Turgett
I think Turgett has a big future in the the game and surprised he isn't in the first team squad this year
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| Quote ="Dave K."Read on twitter the last couple of days that three players have been selected for the England Academy squad (although not sure if they are all in the same age group)
Harry Tyson Wilson
Jordan Lane
Jansin Turgett
I think Turgett has a big future in the the game and surprised he isn't in the first team squad this year'"
Was Harry Tyson Wilson the big skinhead (think number eight) who played in the academy game against us at Craven Park? If so before it descended into a Royal Rumble he seemed to be a really good young talent (not bad hands for a forward either)
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| Quote ="RoverAndOut"Was Harry Tyson Wilson the big skinhead (think number eight) who played in the academy game against us at Craven Park? If so before it descended into a Royal Rumble he seemed to be a really good young talent (not bad hands for a forward either)'"
Sure that was his brother, isn't HTW a halfback?
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Sure that was his brother, isn't HTW a halfback?'"
Cheers KD,
I must have mixed up my Tyson-Wilson's.
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| Quote ="RoverAndOut"Cheers KD,
I must have mixed up my Tyson-Wilson's.'"
Number 8 is Bobby Tyson Wilson
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| As above, Bobby is the prop, Harry the stand off, him and his cousin Ryan Wilson look very good.
A lot of talent coming through, especially in the forwards, also good to have two exciting halfbacks on the books, as we haven't produced any halfbacks since Cooke/Horne.
Winger still seems a problem, who was the last top winger than we brought through our academy that came from Hull?
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| Quote ="Dave K."As above, Bobby is the prop, Harry the stand off, him and his cousin Ryan Wilson look very good.
A lot of talent coming through, especially in the forwards, also good to have two exciting halfbacks on the books, as we haven't produced any halfbacks since Cooke/Horne.
Winger still seems a problem, who was the last top winger than we brought through our academy that came from Hull?'"
Are all these on Full Time contracts and with the first team now? It's an area that you really do seem to be pulling away from us in terms of getting the players through the academy.
I think both Hull clubs seem to be able to produce forwards and have done so with reasonable success. Backs seem to be a bit more scarce - my lack of knowledge of quality Hull wingers ends at Eastwood (although Briscoe and Lineham will have had some academy work done with them)
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| Quote ="RoverAndOut"Are all these on Full Time contracts and with the first team now? It's an area that you really do seem to be pulling away from us in terms of getting the players through the academy.
I think both Hull clubs seem to be able to produce forwards and have done so with reasonable success. Backs seem to be a bit more scarce - my lack of knowledge of quality Hull wingers ends at Eastwood (although Briscoe and Lineham will have had some academy work done with them)'"
Most of them are FT, we have a select few who attend Bishop Burton FT for education and rugby.
HTW, Dean, BTW and Ryan Wilson are in in the first team squad.
Last top winger from Hull was Antony Sullivan.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Most of them are FT, we have a select few who attend Bishop Burton FT for education and rugby.
HTW, Dean, BTW and Ryan Wilson are in in the first team squad.
Last top winger from Hull was Antony Sullivan.'"
I don't know if last season is an indication of FC's work on the academy or just an indictment on Hetherington/Agar regime, but the number and quality seems to be picking up.
If 2 or 3 of those are able to come through in the next year or 2 and the progress of Crooks, Lineham and Shaul can be maintained it changes the core of the squad markedly.
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| This is what AP is trying to do, he wants to copy the model of Leeds and Wigan.
Unfortunately that will take time and thats what a lot of fans fail to understand the previous owners lack of investment in the youth, has set us back a few years.
Agar didn't help with his reluctance to play hardly any young players, Gentle was much better and hopefully radford will continue this.
The above is the reason I am totally against the signing of the Fijian prop, when we have a couple of young props who need easing into the first team and he could potentially block their path.
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| Quote ="Dave K."This is what AP is trying to do, he wants to copy the model of Leeds and Wigan.
Unfortunately that will take time and thats what a lot of fans fail to understand the previous owners lack of investment in the youth, has set us back a few years.
Agar didn't help with his reluctance to play hardly any young players, Gentle was much better and hopefully radford will continue this.
The above is the reason I am totally against the signing of the Fijian prop, when we have a couple of young props who need easing into the first team and he could potentially block their path.'"
The Leeds / Wigan model is the proven method of the way to go. Especially with the difficulty the Hull clubs find in attracting anyone from West of Leeds.
I find the Fijian prop rumour unusual, as from outside you seem reasonably well stocked in the pack. Mind you (after watching them) I found our PNG signings more bizarre, but I would assume players like that are cheap squad fillers - even if they may occasionally encroach on game time a junior might need.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Most of them are FT, we have a select few who attend Bishop Burton FT for education and rugby.
HTW, Dean, BTW and Ryan Wilson are in in the first team squad.
Last top winger from Hull was Antony Sullivan.'"
I think its around 12 now and 17 in he new year.
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| Jack downs, backrower also been called up, that's 4 players from our 19's been called up to the England squad.
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| Potential pack for the future, all of these have played or been called up for an England team in the last 12 months.
Bowden
Parker
Tyson wilson
Turget
Downs
Logan
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| Wasn't the last winger to come through the academy Reece Lyne?
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| Quote ="Dave K."As above, Bobby is the prop, Harry the stand off, him and his cousin Ryan Wilson look very good.
A lot of talent coming through, especially in the forwards, also good to have two exciting halfbacks on the books, as we haven't produced any halfbacks since Cooke/Horne.
Winger still seems a problem, who was the last top winger than we brought through our academy that came from Hull?'"
I think that Hull are expecting 2014 to be Ryan Wilsons breakthrough year. They have had him down at Bishop Burton doing 10 hour days and feeding him 3 times a day to try and pack some weight on ready for a go at Super League. He is a good player.
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| Quote ="heard1989"Wasn't the last winger to come through the academy Reece Lyne?'"
He said last top winger. Lyne was/is awful!
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| Quote ="R.B.A"I think that Hull are expecting 2014 to be Ryan Wilsons breakthrough year. They have had him down at Bishop Burton doing 10 hour days and feeding him 3 times a day to try and pack some weight on ready for a go at Super League. He is a good player.'"
I expect him and BTW to get a few games this year, that's why I don't think we need to sign another prop.
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| Jack Logan has also been selected for England Squad, Think at u18s?
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| The Hull area has always been somewhere that has a lot of budding talent, the problem seems to be getting them from being very good youngsters and turning them into seasoned pros. The list of players who could have / should have been is a long as your arm. Don't know whether its over hyping of them as youngsters or keeping them focused but there certainly seems to have been a problem somewhere.
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| Wow.....................I dis pare at this constant talk about the Leeds & Wigan model that we are supposed to be aspiring to. In reality the Leeds & Wigan models are built on their ability to mine sweep the best talent in Yorkshire & Lancashire.
Leeds for example are underpinned by the Yorkshire League which has around four divisions of 10 to 12 teams, with usually two teams from Hull being represented in division 1. By location they can also compete for the best boys in Lancashire. Wigan have the same scenario in reverse plus the junior Cumbria teams.
Consequently their junior sides are full of the best boys from around Yorkshire, Lancashire, Cumbria AND HULL.
By contrast in Hull by the age of 13 to 14 onwards we only have around SIX teams playing the game, thats around 120 boys at each age group to serve two SL clubs.
The key to all of this, not just in Hull but nationally is to get more boys playing the game. Unfortunately at the junior amateur level the game is close to being on its knees and unless both Hull & Hull KR do something to get more boys playing the game neither will create a sustainable supply of talent.
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Down solely to obscene good luck. Jammy.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Down solely to obscene good luck. Jammy.'"
No, it is down to natural talent, hard work, supportive parents and good coaching.
Well done to the lads. A great achievement for themselves, their junior clubs and Hulls scholarship programme.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"No, it is down to natural talent, hard work, supportive parents and good coaching.
Well done to the lads. A great achievement for themselves, their junior clubs and Hulls scholarship programme.'"
Totally agree.
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