Although we was beat last minute and we can blame the late penalty? shooting out the line but what do you think will make us better as a nation/contenders with the top 2? should the coach stay fulltime? more internationals through the season? or like a state of origin (yorks v lancs) & why did Steve Mac carry a sub & not use him? your thoughts.....

Sinfields retirement is a start

A new coach who doesn't pick players because of who they are and play for and getting rid of Sinfield,who isn't a 7 or good enough to move s.o.l from 13.Sinfield cost us that match not with shooting out of the line but with his decision to not kick into touch and form a scrum with 90 secs left.

Spot on was shouting put the ball into touch does it week in week out for Leeds

Agree he made an error by not finding touch and shooting the line, but I thought he played really well today, complimented by a great Widdop performance.

Sinny shouldn't have shot out of the line but imo George Burgess cost us more by giving away a daft penalty. Doubt they would have been in that position to score if they didn't get the pen.

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True,he is to blame as we'll but shouldn't have been there if captain fantastic had kicked for the scrum

It was a ridiculous decision not to put the ball out of play I agree. However Sinfield had a good game despite that and the brain fart at the end.

Sinfield was our second best player today after S. Burgess who was an absolute animal all game.
Did Charnley touch the ball in the second half?

Couple of times but we have centres who pass too early or not at all,Cudjoe is bloody awful at passing,be better off with the Goulding/Charnley pairing or until Crooks is ready

Spot on about Goulding.

I would have played Ablett in the centre today instead of Cudjoe cant believe he did not even play any minutes.

That sums up Mcbannana....you can't carry a sub in a international.

lots of good stuff from this world cup, shows Super League is getting there hope some dodgy selections in the squad will be learnt from, England for Englishmen is the first and I'm really pleased Bret Ferres proved he should have been in from the start. Whoever is in charge for the next few years need to start planning now as good a players as they are Sinfield, O'loughlin etc need to make way for the next generation to come through.

Some good points mate,got the nucleus for a very good team..ok for fullbacks,wingers,half-backs,props,hookers and back-rowers...centres still a big problem for me

Think blaming individual players is harsh they all played ok/good & there certainly wasn't a lack of effort. Nobody would be mentioning the team selection or the fact Ablett never played if it wasn't for the late try. They certainly did a lot better then I expected them to.

Centre is still a problem I agree, he had a better game today but for me Watkins has been awful the whole world cup.

Thought England just deserved to win it today very unfortunate at the end.

Should have kicked it dead

In my opinion Widdop is a must to play,as he showed on Saturday! How can you not include the regular starting stand/off for arguably the best team in the NRL, especially for a "New Zealander"?.

time to ship players out, like fevrover said, no room for sentimentality, sinfield wont be around for the next world cup as he will be mid 30s! same with the likes of burrow, time has come and gone for them on the international stage now, mcbananna needs to be working on a new half back pairing, hopefully with a recognised 6 and 7, not a player who couldn't get his own position in the squad so pushed out a natural half just to be in there!

The NRL has 16 top flight clubs producing and developing players, we have 13 (Cats not included), and are going to cut down to 11. This will be disastrous for any hopes of us competing with Australia or New Zealand. It's a selfish move by our clubs, entirely motivated by self interest, and not what is good for the game. All reducing teams will do is drive up players wages, and we'll be in the same situation, but with less players to choose from. Disgusing move imo.

Don't get to watch much nrl so just wondered what people's thoughts are on Jack Reed ??

He wears Union Jack boxers.

firstly make sam burgess captain, he's young, plays most of the game and has the respect of the players - a no brainer really

give macnamara at least a 4 nations series, he's not a world beating coach but who could we get to do the job, i've not heard one sensible or realistic option yet.

build the squad around key players in the key positions of 1,6,7, and the forwards - all of which are key positions in the modern game, then look at the weak areas (centre mostly) and identify young players and develop these players specifically for the task

get more of our players playing week in week out in the nrl. like it or not its the world's premier rl competition with the highest standards

i would love to see a separate body set up to run the national side, away from the rfl who make some strange decisions (e.g. pre tournament camp to south africa). i'll admit i'm not sure how this would be funded (sport england perhaps, along with private investment, major sponsor) but it should have dedicated physios, nutritionists, coaches, psychologists, pr professionals etc etc and report to one overall supremo. anyone who knows sport can see i am thinking along the lines of how british cycling have build up to their level of world dominance. it is clear we have outstanding young players kicking around - we need to get the best out of them. i'm not sure the rfl will ever deliver this whilst they have all the other rl matters to deal with