The aggression, commitment and enthusiasm in defence was really good tonight, shame we have no one to lead the players around the pitch to give us a chance in the opponents half.

it would of helped if we got into the opponents half second stanza

no it was good for 40 minutes, then as usual no one could be d. can't believe it took warrington 60mins to realise if they put 3 passes together theyll score

There's a difference between knackered and not being d.

and they couldnt be d, just like for 99% of the time since they got to the grand final

The line speed for me is still woeful.

Defence was shocking I thought. wire looked capable of making 70 yards every time they picked the ball up from a (pish poor) kick

Of particular concern - apart from the ease with which they made ground - was the fact that they had so many men over when they scored their tries. The one where they went to the video ref (when Calderwood made the tackle over the line) was particularly bad - four men to our two.

Shocking is an over reaction IMO. Pish poor kick meant they started on the front foot for their full strength pack to move them further forward. Then an attacking kick would often get them a repeat set.

Actually thinking about it our defence was pretty good! Maybe one or two individual errors, thought Broughton's positioning was poor for the winning try. But then again he is a young lad on loan with limited first grade experience and who is primarily a centre.

Point is they should never have been in the position to force those repeat sets. There are 13 players on the pitch surely one of those can kick a ball, in fact the only decent kick i saw was when Houghton kicked it under pressure and it went to neither the full back or the winger, sure he would make a better kicker than gormless.

They made big yards as their forwards (Morley and Carvell), rans the ball in as if their backsides were on fire. Ours, with the exception of Thackray (who is too lightwieght adn bounces off ) don't.

Can anyone really say that Dowes, Cusack and King run the ball in with the same type of aggression that the Warrington props did tonight?

Then, tonight were have another example of one team working with effective (and not even world beating) halves who can create confusion and have a kicking game.

The other team clearly didn't have that.

Oh, and the coach needs to go and fast!

Our forwards run like they're playing touch and pass

You are Stevo and I claim my £5!

We lack Size, power and pace in the forwards. We've become too dependant on Manu for impact and missed him tonight.

And Thorman kicks like he's doing catching practice.

Hmmm... I see a pattern emerging. Maybe the players misunderstood Agar when he told them to play like they had in training.

I didn't think our defense was to bad tbh. Our kicking game was dire and this lead to Wire making easy yardage than it should have been. We don't help ourselves either with our "one step and wait " defensive play. We never seem to get in the faces of teams for any length of time during a game.

For me our defence is the best aspect of our game. We have a shocking kicking game, Must be the slowest team around the ruck by a mile. Have shocking tactics - 5 drives, poor kick. And when we do get to the opposition 20 - ball in hand we are so devoid of ideas its pitiful. Defence is just about the only thing giving us a chance in games

I think you're right there.

Maybe I should be coach - ha ha

I thought your defence was the best part of your game last night and held up well against a Wire side with attacking know how a plenty. Unfortunately defend was pretty much all FC did second half until you were playing catch up with 7 mins to go!

Also can someone inform me where Berrigan has gone? (Genuine question)

I really didn't think you guys had to defend that well, the amount of dropped balls and unforced errors made by Warrington in the first 60 mins in good field position was incredible. Luckily for FC, Warrington only turned up for the last 15/20 mins.

I can probably count on one hand the amount of times the ball went through more than 2 sets of hands, it was really poor to watch. Thorman's kicking game was very poor, no real bite in defence, I think the only plus point is that you now have a player at FB who can take a high ball and look relatively comfortable.

As is the fight to get up for a quick ptb.

watching other teams makes you realise how slow we are in that area.

Does anyone know the tackle count for yesterday?

Yup. Was a good experience to watch all 7 games in Edinburgh objectively and it really did emphasise how bad we are in so many areas of the game that are basic fundamentals.