As much as i would like to i will not jump on the "Agar Out" bandwagon. We have a decent squad and SOME talented individuals. What we lack is organisation on the field! We were beaten today not by a better skilled side, but a better organised side ( and FWIW Dobson was avearge at best).
Thorman is never a super league 7 and it showed today as we had to shift him to FB in desperation! It's about time the club re payed the loyal and long suffering faithful with the commitment we show and spend some cash on a real 7 not another forward! We have been screaming out for a 7 since Tony Smith retired FFS!! Look what we managed to achieve last season with a one legged scrum half for a few games.

I'd go as dramatic as saying i don't mind if we release everyone who is out of contract this season to make a no7 our highest earner, we've got to offer some serious money to a top class organiser who isn't ready for his bus pass like Dykes was.

says in todays star that we are intrestrd in finch(must be true

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dream on

Set to sign for Melbourne.

thorman is that good at scrum half even huddersfield noticed how good he was last year by playing him at full back all season


Rubbish, isnt the word

get a grip james rule and sod off back to oz and this time come back with a signature of a class half.

And Kearney

We could have had Peter Sterling in his heyday today and it still wouldn't have made any difference.

It won't make any difference until the players show the effort and determination needed to succeed. Lack of motivation is the biggest problem.

as I said in another thread, in 2007 we went and got Berigans signiture, in 2008 Crockers...both fantastic players, but neither were as crucial as replacing Cooke (and then Dykes)

i disgaree entirely! we only lost by 4 points! a decent halfback would have made all the difference. Stick Cooke or Dobson in Hull's side today and the game would have gone the other way due to their better kicking game alone.

Thorman was shocking today. It looked like he had something better to do, like shopping with his Mrs or washing the car.

Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Set to sign for Melbourne.'" Only as a potential stop gap en route to SL, maybe... www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... 540524.htm

Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Set to sign for Melbourne.'" Only as a potential stop gap en route to SL, maybe... www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... 540524.htm

Quote ="Phil O'Stein"Only as a potential stop gap en route to SL, maybe... www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... 540524.htm'" Watched Brett Finch against the Raiders and he was nothing short of ordinary. However the game wasn't that great!!

Quote ="Phil O'Stein"Only as a potential stop gap en route to SL, maybe... www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009 ... 540524.htm'" Watched Brett Finch against the Raiders and he was nothing short of ordinary. However the game wasn't that great!!

Fair enough. But i disagree entirely with yourself



Thought neither Dobson or Cooke were that good today (some poor kicks from Dobson in particular) but Rovers chase was 100% better than ours.

I agree we do lack a real 7. Although we have won five i dont think we have been very convincing. i think that could come down to coaching because our halves arent too bad. We need to change our style of play because sometimes we are too boring and place one up rugby, especially in areas where we can cause damage on there line. there have been too many times where we have had forwards making hit ups 10 yards to there line. its good to get us set up for the next tackle for a play or move but thats non existent. other teams in the super league look more creative then we do and i think if we changed our style or had a seven that can direct and give us options then we would be more successful. we have dangerous players like yeamo and willie manu out wide that can cause problems but we dont have flair and look too flat to create chances.

Trouble is he may sign a union one who kicks everything down field, usually into touch.

Agree Yeamo and Manu are threats but a good 7 would get the ball to them at the right time and not just at second or third drive in

We shoudl have kept Matty Head. Had someone like him played today we would have won, simple.

We have reasonable forwards who are at least competing even if they are dominating the other side and we have backs who given the oppurtunity can score alot of tries, however at the minute our halfs are letting us down a bit, not just Thorman, but Horne too.

I'll obviously get stick for this but with Briscoe out I would but Hall on the wing, Thorman at full back and Tommy Lee at 7. At least Tommy will try something different even if it doesn't always come off.

Won what! We are a very very poor team. Number 7 ! needed one of them for the lat 6 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Right idea wrong player. TL is like a rabbit in headlights with ball in hand ! Can't fault him this season and why...... because he has come on at 9 or as a forward....as i said right idea wrong player , we need a 7 !!

Where's that thread i started after the London debacle?...And since then , One has become available !!!!!

if dobson was on our side for the last 20 mins....
would we have won the game

And maybe Jesus too!

Rumour is, that Matty Head is looking for release, with the hope of going to Parra.

might be me but i thought we played better when thorman went to fb