I am by no means blaming Peter Gentle for Seymour's depression, but from an outsider looking in he seems to have contributed to his mind set through frequent media bashings and his obvious off-season pursuit of a replacement. I personally feel his manner with the media is good from a fans perspective as he says what 'we' want to hear but he must realise it can be detrimental to the team spirit.

Just a thought.

Well maybe Peter Gentle has been aware of Bretts illness - remember he has been sitting with the coaching staff at matches - Saturday maybe came to soon and was a mistake - seems you and I dont know about the duty of care that the club have been giving to Brett.

"Frequent media bashings" by Gentle of Seymour?

Often wondered why Brett was sat in the stands with Gentle

Anyone who isn't either Peter Gentle, Brett Seymour, Adam Pearson or one of a very small handful of senior club employees, doesn't have the first idea of how Seymour has been managed and should keep their idle speculation to themselves.

Why do that when we can have a witch hunt?

Apologises, I must of misunderstood the term 'forum' geez.

There are some things it is appropriate to speculate about on a public forum. This isn't one of them.

You still blaming Seymour for everything?

I mentioned Seymour as an example of Gentle's perceived failings with his man-management style. I could of mentioned the Arundel situation at the start of the season or other topics, but this was current.

Eh? Can you read?

You said, without any evidence whatsoever, that he had contributed to Seymour's mindset. Idle speculation, and totally unwarranted.

People really shouldn't be using Seymour's condition to make cheap points about Gentle. Its in pretty poor taste and does you no favours

Gentle made reference to Seymour "not being ready" the week before but that he thought he was "ready" this week. He also said Seymour had trained well in the week.
Brett Seymour's difficulties pre-date his time at Hull. He was signed as a recovering alcoholic and committed a drink driving offence before he even arrived here. Sadly the guy must have a lot of problems but they are not caused by his time at Hull FC

Uh - my first post states 'seems,' warranted it is merely speculation, but it doesn't take great insight to put a quarter of a jigsaw together.

Hardly..

Whether you're explicitly stating that Gentle is somehow to blame or merely implying it through your snide insinuations, you're still out of order.

Hmm I think the term snide is used in error, because it is anything but. Any who.

'Frequent media bashings'? Perhaps you'll be able to give us some examples? Or maybe you were just being snide.

Or did you mean somebody else?

It's not for now, but I hope the club do investigate internally to see if more can be done in the future.

Hmmm. Pretty sure that wasn't the whole sentence. You've chopped the first part off and selectively quoted it to try to justify your weak argument. Very poor.

It's not weak pal, you, Staffs FC and others rubbished claims of potential mental health problems yesterday. Stating that because you wasn't one of Pearson, Gentle, McRae or Seymour you didn't know. Well, it turns out you could tell from 'the outside'.

Firstly, I am by no means being snide, why I see it fit to defend myself bemuses me.... Anyways, the media bashings was a collective statement, how about the below from the Saturday game with Widnes.

"It's not good enough," said a frustrated Gentle. "We need to make changes.

"I've got the same faces making the same mistakes over and over, so I can't stick with them any longer."

Hardly fills the players with confidence especially the ones that did make the mistakes to which Gentle refers too.

Now, that's the full quote. What I meant by 'more than that' (but which I couldn't explicitly state yesterday for fear of copping a ban/being sued) was if he's gone out and had a skinful then decided to drive home.

Clearly that was not the case, but it still doesn't mean that every man and his dog has to take a share of the blame for yesterday's accident. Seymour has had issues for a long time and acted as he did on Sunday because of a mental illness. The only thing to blame for that is the illness itself.

What mustn't happen is for people to casually apportion blame to individuals at the club without the slightest shred of evidence to support such accusations.