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| There is shortly to be a discussion taking place with regard to standing areas being reinstated in all seater stadia. This discussion will be on the 11-2-12 and will involve a FC supporters representative, HCOSC, FSA, Hull City, Stadium management company, John Cooper and the local MPs and councillors. The views of the FC faithful will be taken on board and aired at this meeting.
In talks with FC voices they have volunteered to be at this meeting as our representative.
Germany has had standing areas reinstated for ten years now and the Scottish FA are said to be looking at it favourably also.
What are our thoughts and views on this turn around and do how would it affect the KC stadium layout.
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| Would depend on where it is. North/south would be favourites, but no problem for me
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| Good idea.
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| Dont see the attraction with standing personally but dont have a big problem with it as long as i dont have to do it ha
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| So let me get this right.
FC Voices will be there to represent the fans?
Hope they enter the meeting with a valid mandate from us, the fans. Seen as they are a fans group an all that shizzle
On this there is talk that Villa Park will see the first new standing area season after next, poss even the Holte end, lower deck, (the biggest end cantilever stand in the UK)
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| Once they see the cost of the civils involved, it'll be kicked into the long grass
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"So let me get this right.
FC Voices will be there to represent the fans?
Hope they enter the meeting with a valid mandate from us, the fans. Seen as they are a fans group an all that shizzle
On this there is talk that Villa Park will see the first new standing area season after next, poss even the Holte end, lower deck, (the biggest end cantilever stand in the UK)'"
FC Voices will not be there as far as I am aware so who-ever is the Hull FC rep we need to know who that person represents. FC Fans are a fans group and all that shizzle so if you wish to give a mandate I am sure you will be welcomed.
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| Does this mean I'll have to sit down for people constantly going to the toilet?
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"Does this mean I'll have to sit down for people constantly going to the toilet?'"
I'd have one single stand for standing and that allows drinking in the stand. Keep all the riff-raff in one area so plump genteel old ladies like me can spread out in peace and quiet.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'd have one single stand for standing and that allows drinking in the stand. Keep all the riff-raff in one area so plump genteel old ladies like me can leer and drool over the players without disruption.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'd have one single stand for standing and that allows drinking in the stand. Keep all the riff-raff in one area so plump genteel old ladies like me can spread out in peace and quiet.
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I cant believe that you are plump - genteel and slightly old yes. Thanks for the new Brenda and Eddie words by the way.
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"So let me get this right.
FC Voices will be there to represent the fans?
Hope they enter the meeting with a valid mandate from us, the fans. Seen as they are a fans group an all that shizzle
On this there is talk that Villa Park will see the first new standing area season after next, poss even the Holte end, lower deck, (the biggest end cantilever stand in the UK)'"
A member of FC Voices will be there to listen at the meeting and relay back to the fans. No one from Voices will be making any statements or decisions, just listening and bringing it back to you to let you make your minds up.
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| I'm all for it and it might solve the capacity problem the Allam's have with the KC.
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| I for one will be on the terraces with any luck. Needs to be reintroduced, massive over reaction to get rid altogether IMO.
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| Quote ="Paul T - HKR"I'm all for it and it might solve the capacity problem the Allam's have with the KC.'"
But they said only a few weeks ago they'd not invest in the KC unless given the stadium. This will cost a few quid.
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| Well Kathy, it was organised prior to you being informed and I can only apologise for jumping the gun but expediency was required on this one.... Sorry love.
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| I'd be overjoyed if it happened. For me, the KC has never generated the same amount of atmosphere with 16k people in it as the Boulevard did with 2k. I miss the 3d stand every game I go to, and the last time I went to Salford, we stood in the shed with the Salford fans just for a bit of atmosphere (albeit on this occasion quite a threatening atmosphere!). I'm sure if we could stand in the KC, all the like minded fans would group together, and we'd finally start to enjoy the benefits of home advantage again! The only issue I'd have is that the view of a RL game is shyt at the ends, and it's unlikely we'd get any terracing on the sides.
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| Quote ="Chet. U. Betcha"Dont see the attraction with standing personally but dont have a big problem with it as long as i dont have to do it ha'"
Me too...s0d that!!!
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| Quote ="Raggytash"I'd be overjoyed if it happened. For me, the KC has never generated the same amount of atmosphere with 16k people in it as the Boulevard did with 2k. I miss the 3d stand every game I go to, and the last time I went to Salford, we stood in the shed with the Salford fans just for a bit of atmosphere (albeit on this occasion quite a threatening atmosphere!). I'm sure if we could stand in the KC, all the like minded fans would group together, and we'd finally start to enjoy the benefits of home advantage again! The only issue I'd have is that the view of a RL game is shyt at the ends, and it's unlikely we'd get any terracing on the sides.'"
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| Can imagine it'll be a fair bit of work to make it safe to stand. Not sure of the requirements but its a hell of a lot more than just rippng the seats up. Would the pitch of the stand need to be reduced and the steps widened?
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| For information:
FC Voices were contacted at last night by the Hull City supporters Club to ask if we would send a representative to a meeting at the KC on 11th February.
The meeting would include the SMC, police, City Supporters Club and other agencies to explore the implications of a possible directive with regard to stadia in this country.
That's all that has happened so far.
FC Voices have stated that as there is no affiliated Supporters Club we would listen to what was said at the meeting and pass it back to the fans.
We know nothing further as yet and will not be reflecting any views on either side of the argument just listening to what is said on the matter.
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| Quote ="barham red"Can imagine it'll be a fair bit of work to make it safe to stand. Not sure of the requirements but its a hell of a lot more than just rippng the seats up. Would the pitch of the stand need to be reduced and the steps widened?'"
It would most likely require the whole of the area (seats, concrete and possibly steelwork), ripping out and starting again. So for some months the stand(s) would be closed. No prizes for guessing which team would be inconvenienced by any such work
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| Quote ="cod'ead"It would most likely require the whole of the area (seats, concrete and possibly steelwork), ripping out and starting again. So for some months the stand(s) would be closed. No prizes for guessing which team would be inconvenienced by any such work'"
Depending on the depth of each row as it is now it may be possible to but and "extra step" on each row. so it would be more like the gangways. (if that makes any sense at all!)
The only issue might come around the load bearing capacity of the steel supports, what the concrete sits on. these looked to be of fairly standard build when the KC was put up, and the Saints build was similar construction.
On the saints board they have an amazing thread about the build of thier ground, there was some debate on capacity, and someone linked the Laws of stadium building booklet, 90 odd pages, it talks about the depth of rows there and capacities. An interesting read, but I'm not trawling through 250 pages of RLFans to find the link
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| Quote ="FCVoices"For information:
FC Voices were contacted at last night by the Hull City supporters Club to ask if we would send a representative to a meeting at the KC on 11th February.
The meeting would include the SMC, police, City Supporters Club and other agencies to explore the implications of a possible directive with regard to stadia in this country.
That's all that has happened so far.
FC Voices have stated that as there is no affiliated Supporters Club we would listen to what was said at the meeting and pass it back to the fans.
We know nothing further as yet and will not be reflecting any views on either side of the argument just listening to what is said on the matter.'"
UPDATE
Having investigated this further the event on the 11th is a visit to the KC by the Safer Standards Roadshow which is travelling the Country showing the suggestions for converting parts of stadia into standing areas if legislation allows this in future years.
The Hull City supporters club have invited various bodies (civic dignitaries etc) including Fc Voices to view this. At present there is no legislation in place to change the rules introduced by the Taylor Report re Standing at certain football Stadiums so nothing is likely to happen in the near future.
FC Voices will monitor this situation and ensure that full consultation with the fans is implemented should the legislation be amended and this situation concerning the KC Stadium ever change in the future.
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| Can't see the law changing
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