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| I can't believe how many of you are falling for Agars mind games regarding his teamsheet.
1. Fitz was 'named' at prop, he played 13 as he has done every week.
2. Westerman was 'named' at 13, he played right back row, as he did against Quins last week.
3. Tickle was 'named' at 2nd row, he played prop.
These are FACTS! And anyone who actually went to the game should see this. It has plainly been done to please certain people/fans.
All 3 played very well in their playing positions, not their 'named' positions. So can people stop getting so excited about Fitz at prop and Westerman at 13, it didnt happen.
I only wish Agar could play his mind games this well on opposing teams!
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"deluded'"
As you say, deluded
or not at the match
or at the match but drunk.
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| so what who cares we are winning we only conplain when we lose
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| I can't see why this matters. They played well, we won. Is tjis the only way you can have a go about Agar this week, its pathetic.
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| Don't think ur rite on this one..!
Westerman did play LF, clearly seen by how and where Fitz Played, for the majority of this season Fitz has played out of his skin defensively, however him just acting as a 3rd prop has slowed down our attack considerably, he played like a prop, tackled like a prop, therefore IMO was a prop..! Westerman received the ball as 1st receiver and actuly did something with the ball. Don't just look where the players are placed in the defensive line..!
All of the above is IMHO, not having a go..!
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| Pointless bunkum.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"As you say, deluded
or not at the match
or at the match but drunk.'"
Was at the game actually, and not drunk. So why am I deluded? I'm just stating FACTS!
And I aren't having a go at Agar, I'm very happy with the last 2 wins, I just can't believe how DELUDED some people are!
The only difference in the last few weeks is that Tickle has played prop/13, down the middle.
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| Quote ="Axle Foley9950"Don't think ur rite on this one..!
Westerman did play LF, clearly seen by how and where Fitz Played, for the majority of this season Fitz has played out of his skin defensively, however him just acting as a 3rd prop has slowed down our attack considerably, he played like a prop, tackled like a prop, therefore IMO was a prop..! Westerman received the ball as 1st receiver and actuly did something with the ball. Don't just look where the players are placed in the defensive line..!
All of the above is IMHO, not having a go..!
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Fitzy played exactly the same as every other week, was you not at the game? We play with our 13 down the middle like a 3rd prop. How many times did u see Westerman in the middle? Not many I reckon, but I definitely saw Tickle and Fitz there alot!
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| I'm puzzled. What exactly is the point of this thread?
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm puzzled. What exactly is the point of this thread?
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another moan for the sake of it i think, plus most of its wrong anyway
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"another moan for the sake of it i think, plus most of its wrong anyway'"
I am not moaning about anything, just trying to find out how many people on here actually take notice during a game or know what they are talking about!
Which bit did I get wrong by the way?
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| Quote ="wefewee!"I can't believe how many of you are falling for Agars mind games regarding his teamsheet.
1. Fitz was 'named' at prop, he played 13 as he has done every week.
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Think you'll find he's been named at 13 and played prop every week. Your so deluded you actually think a 13 should do hard yards down the middle.
If any one has been effected by Agars way of playing it is you!
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| Quote ="Willa"Think you'll find he's been named at 13 and played prop every week. Your so deluded you actually think a 13 should do hard yards down the middle.
If any one has been effected by Agars way of playing it is you!'"
Fitz has played 13 every week, but we, FC, play our 13 as a 3rd prop. That is Agars way, I don't agree with that, I prefer a ball playing 13 and think we score more points with a ball playing 13.
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| Quote ="wefewee!"Fitz has played 13 every week, but we, FC, play our 13 as a 3rd prop. That is Agars way, I don't agree with that, I prefer a ball playing 13 and think we score more points with a ball playing 13.'"
however he is coach and your not..
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"however he is coach and your not..'"
Unfortunately you are right, but I would like you to consider that I like to play expansive, attractive rugby like Warrington, so if there is a coaching job out there give me a shout!
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| Quote ="Willa"Think you'll find he's been named at 13 and played prop every week. Your so deluded you actually think a 13 should do hard yards down the middle.
If any one has been effected by Agars way of playing it is you!'"
Fitz wasn't named at 13 against Bradford, Westerman was. We played essentially the same as we always do. Just on Sunday Tickle was running the middle channel that Fitz normally does.
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| Quote ="wefewee!"Unfortunately you are right, but I would like you to consider that I like to play expansive, attractive rugby like Warrington, so if there is a coaching job out there give me a shout!'"
Use the contact a director link, given your posts i am sure they will have a spot for you mate
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Fitz wasn't named at 13 against Bradford, Westerman was. We played essentially the same as we always do. Just on Sunday Tickle was running the middle channel that Fitz normally does.'"
Finally someone who actually sees what happens!
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Use the contact a director link, given your posts i am sure they will have a spot for you mate
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Would you like to be my assistant when I get the job?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Fitz wasn't named at 13 against Bradford, Westerman was. We played essentially the same as we always do. Just on Sunday Tickle was running the middle channel that Fitz normally does.'"
Who was first receiver? There was times (especially early on in the season) when Fitz would be it numerous times an attack.
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| Westy appeared to play the majority of the game down the right hand side channel in the 2nd rowers position. His natural game is to pass the ball about and show off his skills, it doesn't necessarily mean he was playing at LF, just that he plays that position alot differently to Ticks.
With Manu playing the left hand channel, it left Tickle, Moa, Fitz, O'Meley, Lauaki and Dowes rotating in the three prop positions that Agar utilises.
I think the OP is right in what he is saying, but not sure on what point he's trying to prove though.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Who was first receiver? There was times (especially early on in the season) when Fitz would be it numerous times an attack.'"
Obst or Horne, mostly. The Fitz thing gets blown out of proportion he rarely gets the ball and passes, unless its late at the line like ogre. The few times it happens it us painfully slow, mind.
Westerman played excellently as a right sided pivot type second rower. But he didn't play it from down the middle like a conventional loose forward.
I think Westy down the right and Manu down the left is an excellent 2nd row partnership.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Who was first receiver? There was times (especially early on in the season) when Fitz would be it numerous times an attack.'"
Horne or Obst were usually 1st receiver! I think when Fitz does step in there he is trying to do a job that isn't his, but in a way that he is trying 2 lead the team being the captain and warrior that he is.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Obst or Horne, mostly. The Fitz thing gets blown out of proportion he rarely gets the ball and passes, unless its late at the line like ogre. The few times it happens it us painfully slow, mind.
Westerman played excellently as a right sided pivot type second rower. But he didn't play it from down the middle like a conventional loose forward.
I think Westy down the right and Manu down the left is an excellent 2nd row partnership.'"
You are spot on, this is when we look very dangerous. Tickle is an excellent 2nd rower but I think he is more suited to running his excellent lines around the ruck rather than out wide.
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