Hull FC Squad:

T Briscoe, Dowes, Cusack, Fitzgibbon, Hall, Horne, Houghton, Lauaki, Longy, Manu, Moa, O’Meley, Radford, Tansey, Tickle, Turner, Washbrook, Whiting, Yeaman


Longy and Ticks in - Longy to be given late fitness test.

Tansey
Whiting
Hall
Yeaman
Briscoe
Horne
Long
Radford
Houghton
O'Meley
Manu
Tickle
Fitzgibbon
Subs
Lauaki
Moa
Cusack
Washbrook
Dowes and Turner to miss out for me.

If Moa and Lauaki come on together it should stir things up

Same for me.

The boys are back in town !!

Agree with that and if Longy not fit then Turner in at 6 Horne to 7

Assuming Long plays then I would drop Craig Hall and play Turner on the wing with Whiting at centre. Craig Hall’s defence is awful and I have seen no sign of improvement in this area since his debut. Keith Senior always gets the better of him. He refuses to tackle low down for some reason, god knows what they work on in training with him during the week. Our right side defence is particularly week when he plays. All teams target it. Turner is better in defence and can be just as good in attack for me.

Hall's defence is awful.....did you see Turner on Sunday!!!

Whilst i do like turner his attack is no where near as good as hall's as yet

Looks good to me

Turner's defence is better than C Hall's, no doubt. Would rather have someone who can defend and offer less in attack than the worlds best attacker who is a turnstile in defence. He may as well be invisible. I repeat, why has nobody worked on this with him over the past few years?

and me, although i'd consider starting Washy at 9 and bringing Houghton off the bench. I think that plays to Houghtons strengths more around his running game vs a tired defence.

I agree with hall's defence isn't great but neithers turners IMO hall offers more in attack on the wing so he should keep his place.

I would imagine the coaches are working on his defence but he sometimes he seem to just jump out the line.
He is caple of very good defence sometimes like against wire when he tackled king( i think) off the pitch.

By sometimes you mean 1 in 10 tackles. You need to be able to defend consistently. If Hall plays we are so easy to beat and if he plays opposite Senior again it's game over!

Did you not see Turner's tackle on Reardon in the Bradford game? He came from nowhere and nearly put Reardon in the East Stand, saving a certain try. Reardon didn't know what had hit him. I can't see Hall doing that.

Hall has made the occasional big tackle in the past. He went one-on-one with Richard Moore and saved a certain try, for instance. His problem is consistency and bad decision making as much as anything else.

The odd spectacular tackle doesn't make someone a good defender.

Halls front on defence is looking better and better. His big weakness still is ball watching and not tracking his runner meaning he's out of position and arm waving as the other guy runs past him. Needs to tighten up positionally but getting better. I'd always have an attacking centre with defensive weakness in my side over an average centre both in attack and defence like Turner.

Can't disagree with anything you say Kosh but would maintain that most of the time Turner's defence is better than Hall's. Hall offers more of an attacking threat though and certainly has more pace. So do we go for safety first in defence or all out attack?

Hall defended really well against Matt King recently, some of the tries down Hall's wing ahainst Leeds was down to the defence getting sucked into the middle and not having Tickle there won't have helped.

I agree he nees to be more consistent but I don't think turners defence is any better or more consistent than halls.





I did and it was a great tackle but like kosh has said it was only 1 tackle.



I'm not knocking turner by the way i just dont think we'd gain much (if anything) by swapping him with hall.

Looking good to me.

hall will defo play.

Tansey
Whiting
Briscoe
Yeaman
Hall
Horne
Long
Radford
Houghton
O'Meley
Manu
Tickle
Fitzgibbon
Subs
Lauaki
Moa
Cusack
Washbrook

Just makes Seniors wing a bit stronger defensively for mine.

Thats the big reason for our right edge defence looking so bad on Sunday. Having Whiting, Hall, Washy and Lauaki there meant there was no clear leader on that side of the pitch and it was a big mistake by Agar not moving Burnett to the right and having Lauaki defending in the middle.

Tansey
Whiting
Briscoe
Yeaman
Hall
Horne
Long
Cusack
Washbrook
O'Meley
Manu
Tickle
Fitzgibbon

Houghton
Lauaki
Moa
Radford

Think we need Washy starting at hooker for his defence as sides just spot Houghton to get a quick PTB hence his tackle count been so high despite his lack of time on the pitch.