[quote="Chris71":21ufq3s8]Unless the club under the new Coaching set up havent seen Staveley as part of the plans moving forward then we have to trust their judgement. If however he’s pushed for the move to Cas then I can’t help but think he’s been poorly advised. Looking at Cas so far they look a very poor side and it would seem he’d be leaving a Hull side that has made significant changes within the club to move forward to go to a club that seems so far to be in a similar position we were in last couple of seasons. If the move his doing I’d be surprised he’s chosen a move to Cas over giving it a go under the new ownership and coaching set up.[/quote:21ufq3s8] Cant see that the new coach has had any time to make a playing judgement on him so it looks more likely that he has asked to go.

[quote="Chris71":tkqzwvjz]Heaven forbid they promote from within, but best of luck to him whatever the reasons for his move are. At the end of the today I’d rather we have a team of players that are 100% committed, if he wasn’t fully committed due to Pete Riding not been at the club then no issue with the club letting him go elsewhere.[/quote:tkqzwvjz] The culture has been wrong in the club for decades now. If we lose a few in putting that right, that’s fine. Carty & Myler give us an opportunity to finally put it right, backed by the owners.

Perhaps Cartwright has also seen a lot of potential in Kirby or somebody like Lennon Clark aswell during pre season and thinks they will be able to fill a gap left by Staveley

Disappointing IF Staveley is leaving.... My guess is he's already signed for another club, and that club has no cap space this season (probably Hull kr) maybe we wanted to see, how his fitness is progressing, before offering a contract extension , or another club were willing to take a gamble on his fitness. At the end of the day, im confident on the club's decision .

[quote="weaver93":2fdye0jb]Disappointing IF Staveley is leaving.... My guess is he's already signed for another club, and that club has no cap space this season (probably Hull kr) maybe we wanted to see, how his fitness is progressing, before offering a contract extension , or another club were willing to take a gamble on his fitness. At the end of the day, im confident on the club's decision .[/quote:2fdye0jb] I'm not as confident as you, the club and Myler have to prove they can make the right decisions, it looks so far like they are slowly getting things right, but they made a real mess with Abdul. I hope when it's announced the club are truthful with the reasons for him leaving.

[code][/code][quote="Dave K.":2hoj17q7]I'm not as confident as you, the club and Myler have to prove they can make the right decisions, it looks so far like they are slowly getting things right, but they made a real mess with Abdul. I hope when it's announced the club are truthful with the reasons for him leaving.[/quote:2hoj17q7] I spoke to a member of the backroom staff today. Said that even he’s not 100% sure if he’s gone but not seen him for a few days so assumes he has. Said he’s got about 15kg to lose and that when you’re in the dreaded ACL recovery group, you see a lot about a player. Been lazy with his recovery and they’re not 100% on how his knee will hold up with all his weight. I was fuming when I heard he was going as I think he could be a real talent but if he’s not got the right mentality. I guess it’s on to the next player. Said that everyone is feeling class after a tough preseason but thinks we’re still a cycle away from where we want to be as TS didn’t prioritise strength work enough so the clubs not where it should be but heading in the right direction now. Used Martin as the prime example. Got real talent, and good leg strength but not physically developed up top yet unlike Barron who had always put a lot of extra work in at the gym