[quote="The Dentist Wilf":okp1lk3o]Theres been issues bubbling for 4 weeks now and you have to trust the clubs new managements judgement here you have to have a settled group and group dynamics are as important as levels of ability at that age. I wouldn’t bother listening to his dad he’s bound to be loyal but on past experience he doesn’t appear to like the club much either[/quote:okp1lk3o] As you say Pete as a club we need all individuals that are at the club that genuinely want to be a part of it, particularly in the playing side of things. Thankfully we now have owners and a Coach that are on the same page and not afraid to make the changes needed even if that means we suffer a little pain in the short term. I think Myler alluded to that in a couple of his interviews early doors when he mentioned we may lose some popular or promising players on the journey to rebuild the club. For me after being fortunate enough to have a chat with Cartwright he speaks with brutal honesty and certainly seems to be fully focused on the job in the here & now and also the future to come. He certainly is strikes me as a guy that will back you all the way if you commit and likewise if you take the mick you’ll face consequences in a firm and fair way not vindictive. As much as I can understand Staveley Snr will want what he perceives as the best for his lad I can’t help but think that they way he acts does hamper his sons progress.

[quote="Chris71":tkqzwvjz]Heaven forbid they promote from within, but best of luck to him whatever the reasons for his move are. At the end of the today I’d rather we have a team of players that are 100% committed, if he wasn’t fully committed due to Pete Riding not been at the club then no issue with the club letting him go elsewhere.[/quote:tkqzwvjz] The culture has been wrong in the club for decades now. If we lose a few in putting that right, that’s fine. Carty & Myler give us an opportunity to finally put it right, backed by the owners.

Perhaps Cartwright has also seen a lot of potential in Kirby or somebody like Lennon Clark aswell during pre season and thinks they will be able to fill a gap left by Staveley

Disappointing IF Staveley is leaving.... My guess is he's already signed for another club, and that club has no cap space this season (probably Hull kr) maybe we wanted to see, how his fitness is progressing, before offering a contract extension , or another club were willing to take a gamble on his fitness. At the end of the day, im confident on the club's decision .

[quote="weaver93":2fdye0jb]Disappointing IF Staveley is leaving.... My guess is he's already signed for another club, and that club has no cap space this season (probably Hull kr) maybe we wanted to see, how his fitness is progressing, before offering a contract extension , or another club were willing to take a gamble on his fitness. At the end of the day, im confident on the club's decision .[/quote:2fdye0jb] I'm not as confident as you, the club and Myler have to prove they can make the right decisions, it looks so far like they are slowly getting things right, but they made a real mess with Abdul. I hope when it's announced the club are truthful with the reasons for him leaving.

[code][/code][quote="Dave K.":2hoj17q7]I'm not as confident as you, the club and Myler have to prove they can make the right decisions, it looks so far like they are slowly getting things right, but they made a real mess with Abdul. I hope when it's announced the club are truthful with the reasons for him leaving.[/quote:2hoj17q7] I spoke to a member of the backroom staff today. Said that even he’s not 100% sure if he’s gone but not seen him for a few days so assumes he has. Said he’s got about 15kg to lose and that when you’re in the dreaded ACL recovery group, you see a lot about a player. Been lazy with his recovery and they’re not 100% on how his knee will hold up with all his weight. I was fuming when I heard he was going as I think he could be a real talent but if he’s not got the right mentality. I guess it’s on to the next player. Said that everyone is feeling class after a tough preseason but thinks we’re still a cycle away from where we want to be as TS didn’t prioritise strength work enough so the clubs not where it should be but heading in the right direction now. Used Martin as the prime example. Got real talent, and good leg strength but not physically developed up top yet unlike Barron who had always put a lot of extra work in at the gym