Totally agree, the man is out of his depth

he could have greg Inglis,Billy Slater,Darren Lockyer and we still wouldn't win anything with him in charge

It's like having a rolls royce with a skoda engine

imo we need a proven coach, i know you cant go and buy experience as you have to gain it. But some ppl are just cut out for certain jobs and i think agar will always be good at been a no.2 and not head coach.

So the playing staff are deciding the interchanges?

I know this has already been covered and i'm not alone in what i'm about to say. I have harped on about it now for a long while - the whole coaching set up at the club and the ethos around how we appraoch the game needs a huge shake up.

I, like many others, watched last nights game and while i was sat there i thought to myself on numerous occassions whoever we have in that side it wouldn't make much difference.....simply because the problem lies with the coaches, their tactics and appraoch to how the game should be played.

Any player can play to a game plan or set plays and structures, you don't have to be a world beater to fit in. Yes those players may not execute the game plan as effective as 'better skilled players' but as least they would have a go. And the game plan i'm talking about is fast play the balls (or faster than slow play the balls which is what we have now) dummy runners, variation in kicking game, running angles (like Tickle for his try - the one occassion), promoting the ball, pushing through gaps with players supporting the ball carrier and so on.

Saints, Leeds et al have been doing this for years....regardless of who comes in and out of the respective teams.....Time for Agar to go....but we all know that aint gunna happen - neither is us challenging for anything while he is at the helm!

We probably will. I dont buy the 'when he has his own players' arguement. He can still be getting more from the current players and should be. He can still play to a different gameplan than what he is. Im fed up of been 17 rounds or so into the season and we have shown no variation at all from 5 drives and a kick. What exactly do they work on in training?