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| Watched the great man on Sky tv duty yesterday and thought what a loss to the game he is.
After watching our latest performance where nil was our points total we surely must approach Ellery to bring him to Belle Vue.
Watching Chris Chester I have no confidence that he alone can dig us out of this mess. We have gone backwards since John Kear left.
Chris Chester benefitted from JK's input and right now we need someone like Ellery Hanley to help him out.
With EH to help him there will be no room for players with egos bigger than their ability and in Hanley you have the perfect master of self belief and dedication that others can only aspire to.
Get him approached now as if is painful to watch the agony on Chester's face.
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| Quote ="ricardo07"Watched the great man on Sky tv duty yesterday and thought what a loss to the game he is.
After watching our latest performance where nil was our points total we surely must approach Ellery to bring him to Belle Vue.
Watching Chris Chester I have no confidence that he alone can dig us out of this mess. We have gone backwards since John Kear left.
Chris Chester benefitted from JK's input and right now we need someone like Ellery Hanley to help him out.
With EH to help him there will be no room for players with egos bigger than their ability and in Hanley you have the perfect master of self belief and dedication that others can only aspire to.
Get him approached now as if is painful to watch the agony on Chester's face.'"
Each to their own but personally I don’t think he’d make any difference not is he in any way a proven coach.
No coach could save a team that loses on average 3 players again. What CC needs is to find a four leaf clover or Hanley better bring one with him.
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| As you say Vastman each to is own but Hanley won the league as coach of St Helen's.
I am not suggesting he be made coach or even that with him we would win a trophy.
However what he does is bring in a mental toughness and a higher bar for setting standards.
Any young player can only be inspired by him and the more senior players will certainly improve as a result of him being around.
Suggest that anyone having doubts should watch his 2 month spell for Balmain in 1988 which had the Aussie public drooling at his class.
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| Quote ="ricardo07"As you say Vastman each to
Any young player can only be inspired by him and the more senior players will certainly improve as a result of him being around.
Suggest that anyone having doubts should watch his 2 month spell for Balmain in 1988 which had the Aussie public drooling at his class.'"
Tbh can only speak as I find, was coaching a team of under nines when Hanley was playing for Wigan at odsal. All kids lined up as team coach arrived, the coach and most players stopped chatted to the lads, Not the big mister more or less shoved them out of way , one of players dad asked him if he wouldn’t mind speaking to them - I can’t print his response.
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| Quote ="ricardo07"Watched the great man on Sky tv duty yesterday and thought what a loss to the game he is.
After watching our latest performance where nil was our points total we surely must approach Ellery to bring him to Belle Vue.
Watching Chris Chester I have no confidence that he alone can dig us out of this mess. We have gone backwards since John Kear left.
Chris Chester benefitted from JK's input and right now we need someone like Ellery Hanley to help him out.
With EH to help him there will be no room for players with egos bigger than their ability and in Hanley you have the perfect master of self belief and dedication that others can only aspire to.
Get him approached now as if is painful to watch the agony on Chester's face.'"
There'd be no room for big egos because his would be the biggest in the room.
Didn't Cas do something similar with him a few years ago, some audiences with the great man, and I seem to remember it fizzled into nothing?
A superb player, one of the hold-your-breath players. There have been a few that make you hold your breath whenever or wherever they get the ball, because something magical might happen. Offiah, Jason Robinson, even Sam Tomkins in his early years, and Ellery was very much like that. But an audience with his ego, at great expense? Unlikely to achieve much.
As for winning the league with St Helens, isn't this the guy who coached them for one season and won it with an inherited team, at a time when there were only a couple of really good teams in the league, and then tried to claim the credit for the success of the next coach for inheriting "his" side?
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"
Seem to remember him always in bother with the police in his younger days.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"
That's why he'd refuse to speak to the press in his playing days, because they'd bring it up.
Fair play for turning his life around, but didn't they use to say in the eighties that Sunday afternoon in Bradford was the time that you could leave your door unlocked, because Ellery was playing?
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| Quote ="ricardo07"Watched the great man on Sky tv duty yesterday and thought what a loss to the game he is.
After watching our latest performance where nil was our points total we surely must approach Ellery to bring him to Belle Vue.
Watching Chris Chester I have no confidence that he alone can dig us out of this mess. We have gone backwards since John Kear left.
Chris Chester benefitted from JK's input and right now we need someone like Ellery Hanley to help him out.
With EH to help him there will be no room for players with egos bigger than their ability and in Hanley you have the perfect master of self belief and dedication that others can only aspire to.
Get him approached now as if is =#FF0000painful to watch the agony on Chester's face.'"
With you on that mate, I feel for the bloke.
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| Hanley was a terrific player, one of the very best I’ve seen play.
His coaching record kind of sums him up though...
One year at Saints, wins it with a quality side then gets suspended and later sacked...
Goes to union...comes back to league and joins up with Cas and lasts two months, then goes to Doncaster and after just over a year packs in...not seen since in over 10 years...and he’s your saviour? Be a pretty expensive one too I’d imagine!
No thanks...
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"With you on that mate, I feel for the bloke.'"
The absolute despair on his face when Bill went off injured. We have lost a player in every game post lockdown.
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| He looks in good nick
Maybe we should see if he wants a game
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| Quote ="ricardo07"As you say Vastman each to is own but Hanley won the league as coach of St Helen's.
I am not suggesting he be made coach or even that with him we would win a trophy.
However what he does is bring in a mental toughness and a higher bar for setting standards.
Any young player can only be inspired by him and the more senior players will certainly improve as a result of him being around.
Suggest that anyone having doubts should watch his 2 month spell for Balmain in 1988 which had the Aussie public drooling at his class.'"
Oh come on I could have coached that team which he inherited, he then completely wrecked it and got sacked!
As for being a great player well that is not in doubt, however this has nothing to do with coaching at all.
Frankly giving Hanley the job would destroy the club and you’d be begging to see Chester back imho.
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| Quote ="Kirmudgeonly"
I too was coaching under nines at the time (wonder if we know each other
) and just wonder if you caught Ellery on the wrong day. I had several dealings with him and he seemed to go out of his way to be helpful if he could. He was unbelievably fit and strong and a great player, but as others have said not the greatest coach.
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| It’s getting so bad some one is suggesting Hanley could turn things around
Mother of god.......
We should give Peter roe a call n see what he’s on with
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| Quote ="musson"It’s getting so bad some one is suggesting Hanley could turn things around
Mother of god.......
We should give Peter roe a call n see what he’s on with'"
I think the comments are a bit tongue in cheek. Chill man.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"
I joined the police in 1989 and quickly got told that Hanley had been one of the most prolific burglars in Leeds prior to his rugby days.
All credit to him for turning it around though.
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| Unrelated and somewhat irrelevant but I don't think he could read or write when he was picked up for Bradford. A mates dad was tasked with helping him out with the old bill as and when the need arose.
Once in a generation player but if Hanley is the answer then I am not sure what the question is.
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| Quote ="FIL"
Played at market district as a young in why do you think Leeds didn't sign him originally
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| Cheated half the time by hanging around 20 yards up field, and then lo and behold there he was in support of a break. The rules were tweaked to stop it I think.
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| Quote ="metallicat"Cheated half the time by hanging around 20 yards up field, and then lo and behold there he was in support of a break. The rules were tweaked to stop it I think.'"
If they changed the rules to stop him, he was clearly not cheating.
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| Quote ="PopTart"If they changed the rules to stop him, he was clearly not cheating.'"
Well OK, not strictly cheating, took advantage of a situation which imo was unsporting, deliberately being "offside" up field even though he wasnt offside, or something like that
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| Quote ="PopTart"If they changed the rules to stop him, he was clearly not cheating.'"
Come on PT, Hanley was a cheat, I bet even his mum would agree on that. Great player without question but an also a genius rule breaker.
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