Having been a box holder the previous 2 years, I've only been to one game this season. This was due to a general disillusionment regarding the previous management of the club and the horrendous start made to the season. Now the club has been stabilised and things are coming together on the pitch, I will almost certainly attend the remaining home games this season and buy a season ticket for next season. I realise this makes me look fickle, however I think it's fairly typical in times like this when time and money is limited. My confidence in the club is building up again and I'm sure if the product on the pitch continues to improve many other floating supporters will return.

I stand corrected

No problem

Excellent news.
Let's hope there are plenty more like you.

Although there are plenty of moans on the forum, MC & his team have not only kept the club alive (no mean feat in itself), we also have a competitive team on the park and some decent signings already confirmed for next season.
There is plenty to look forward to with just a few "creases" to iron out to keep the masses happy.

I don't know MC personally but I totally respect the guy for what he has done for our club - the short term aim achieved in much less time than anyone could have hoped for. I hope he stays long enough to even better days that we can all enjoy.

I say to the missing fans forget your differences and support the RW and B, that's what it's about not bearing grudges and the pride thing. You might just enjoy returning.

I really didn't want to get involved, but when I remonstrated regarding being kicked out of the corner where we've stood for thirty years I was told to move and grow up, all of a sudden We have a respected poster being thrown out for bringing his own drinks in and all hell breaks out, overkill anyone?

I was ready for packing it in under Agar. However since Webster took over I am getting a the buzz back. I went to Warrington on Sunday and for me seeing the team perform like that is priceless.

I don't want to comment too much about the right or wrongs of the opinions of posters in this thread. However the way the club is heading at the moment it would take more than pride over a bottle of pop or some bombastic and arrogant stewarding to keep me away. As for the season tickets, if we get what Webster has already delivered served up again next season I would say they are extremely good value.

So to all you sulkers, take a deep breath, shrug it off and rise above it. Its great watching the team at the moment.

^ Boom, well said that man!

Why not put bottles of pop in your pocket before entering the ground.....simple. No hassles from stewards, and fully rehydrated all through the game without queuing up. Winner winner chicken dinner.

Now, that is a fair point.

The point I was trying to make is that there is certainly a perception that the fans are being treated as part of the problem, not the solution; hence my analogy with Ryanair. When the chairman's Twitter feed has a Bill Shankly quote at its head, "If you can't support us when we lose or draw, don't support us when we win," and the occasional digs (or what feel like digs) at the commitment of the Wakefield public in backing the team, it is easy to feel like your own commitment is being questioned.

For me, the commitment of anyone who watches Wakefield cannot be questioned. Every season, we know what we are going to get: a team that will win not one piece of silverware, and the highlight will be the occasional big scalp, hopefully against Leeds or Cas, with the outside chance of a play-off spot before being dumped out with barely a sniff of Old Trafford or Wembley. It's a never-ending trail of false dawns followed by bust, of limping through yet another crisis. Anyone who chooses to spend any of their time and money on that cause should never have their commitment questioned. Sanity maybe. Commitment? No.

People buy season tickets for different reasons. Some buy them because they make small financial sense if they go to all the games. Some, and I suspect most, buy them because it's their way of showing their support. Personally, I get to a handful of home games, due to an increasingly busy calendar, but I buy one because I see it as doing my bit. In the same way that I'm in the club lottery, and in the same way that I have a direct debit every month for RFL Cares. It's just me doing my bit.

But I can afford to do those things, and I know that many people can't. That they will pick and choose when funds allow, and perhaps even for no other reason that they will pay to watch a largely lost cause when the going is good or the excitement will be higher. That is their choice and I wouldn't criticise for them for it. After all, the club is better with their occasional twenty quid than without it.

It's my view that as we are so unlikely to ever win anything (or at least in the near future), barring very favourable cup draws, we should try and avoid any negative feelings at all amongst fans, and for some reason we have managed to generate some.

My own view of Michael Carter is that he has done an excellent job at stabilising the club and I'm sure he's a decent guy. I was just making the point that the perceptions generated are not fan-friendly when compared to when Glover was in charge; unfortunately, Glover was balance sheet unfriendly. I made the fair point (or so I thought) that a mix of the two would be great, with some "shout it from the rooftop, everything is fantastic" double-glazing rhetoric backed by sound finances. What I got back was a fairly aggressive response.

I know the chairman ended up with a role he hadn't signed up for when he first became involved, but I sell a product too that involves me meeting people, even though that was never why I started to do ot. I write crime fiction. I've sold over a million books worldwide and am published in French, German, Polish and Russian. Even though relatively speaking one cheesed off reader matters little, I have never responded to anyone in anything other than a friendly manner, even when perhaps my real thoughts were different (even when I got a one star review because their Kindle broke when reading one of mine) because:
- beware the angry internet user
- one happy customer might tell someone else. One unhappy customer all definitely tell someone else, and probably more.

What I have never done is say to someone, "if you think you can do better, buy a typewriter", or suggested to my readers that if they really want me to carry on writing, they had better show more commitment and spread the word.

The point I'm making, in a rather long-winded fashion, is that a perception is being allowed to build that the fans aren't the most welcome, and aren't made to feel welcome, and it's a shame. Despite what I might say, I've no doubt I'll end up buying a season ticket, but I just wish I felt like we're all in it together a bit more. Wakefield has always been a family club, with the supporters at its heart. Look at what Snowie and others did earlier in the year with the barriers. Maybe I read things wrongly, but the perception I have is that some of that is being lost, and I am clearly not the only one.

I've only missed the Catalans away this season and obviously will be attending all the remaining games,but I can honestly say at no time during the season or any other season,have I thought of turning my back on the club,whether it be the clubs financial position or a coaching issue and can't think of anything that possibly would,so I find it hard to understand why people do,but not everybody is the same obviously .MC and staff are the most approachable team I have met while watching Trin,whether it be an issue with Jordan or for just a chat about the club.What I'm trying to say is stick with them ,the bad times are behind us and better times ahead and I'm sure MC and team are the right people to take us there.

Slugger. Over a million books you say.... So were you one of the 3 waiting for Elston to leave???

This sums up EXACTLY how I feel about the current situation. End of the day the policy about the plastic bottle is wrong, if the club implemented that policy and wouldn't apologise to Al after he was thrown out then for me the club is at fault and someone needs to swallow their pride.

I also look at some of the things MC posts aimed at fans and think it is very passive-aggressive and almost like the mentality of someone who now thinks he is owed something by everyone. Maybe he is, but you won't get far acting like it. That's my perception and it seems I am not the only one. I understand the bloke is good with his figures but it seems we could do with someone who is a bit of a better wordsmith... Slugger, 1 million books you say? How fitting for such a job



That said, as a season ticket holder, I will be renewing as I am happy with the direction the club is going and the above is a minor gripe for me personally.

One thing though: it seems silly not having a student season ticket. I worry about how we plan to entice our future fan base through the gates when prices are being hiked up in the current climate. I personally can't afford a season ticket, it is the one and only thing I ask for as a christmas present.

The reason for no student prices is because in the past people have taken the by being put on a course through work etc and qualifying for an NUS card when they are no more of a student that me or thee. It's the selfish supporters fault who have ruined it for everyone.

Maybe so, but if these people are then no longer turning up at all, it seems like a daft loss of revenue? Especially taking into account merchandise sales e.t.c

Again if you feel I was aggressive I apologise for that. That was and would never be my intention

That's fair enough, cheers. One of the perils of the internet is that words can be interpreted in any number of ways, I guess. I was attempting to constructive.

If only I got a quid a book!

And very good reads too, I have all his books,

Well make them more interesting then!

You know I mean it Slugger!

Where do you get a bookcase to hold over a million books?

My ST has gone up and so has my sons with him being 14. My daughter dances with the girls and is only 10 but i will be buying for all 3, we benefit from the away entry also. I like the direction the club is now heading and as i have read from a previous poster i also don't smoke, have a couple of pints (cheaper than my local) buy the kids a bottle of pop each if they want a drink (£1.50) and don't feel the need to bring pop in from outside!
Posts have been locked previously for personal grievances, if people don't like certain things then that is up to them to do as they wish.
I don't know the circumstances of why a family are refusing to attend anymore so i am not at liberty to respond. I do feel though that with one of the posters being so aggrieved then he/she should either mention what did happen so people can make their own minds up or leave it alone now.