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| Quote ="cocker"This is why the club/trust should put the truth out in the public domain surely. There can't be a one sided propaganda story put out all the time....the fact we are being discussed in such a negative false way needs addressing ....'"
Think that has been the problem all along.
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| The people we really need to help spread the message are members from the opposition parties; the people who represent and stand for Tory, UKIP, Lib Dem and others. They will be able to use this as a way to expose how poor the labour council have been for the city and the region. It will give them something to hold over Box and Labour and they can help to try and hold them to account
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"Think that has been the problem all along.'"
To a certain extent yes but in the past no-one has really discussed the matter in a open way like Redcats described . Where was the meeting ? who was actually present and speaking about us?........
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| WMDC still have it in their gift to make this right.
It's up to them, but they know the situation as we see it!
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| Quote ="TRB"WMDC still have it in their gift to make this right.
It's up to them, but they know the situation as we see it!'"
Why do i get the feeling you'll be waiting a while for Box to back down.
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| What are the reasons for refusing Featherstone's offer? Having visited both Dewsbury and Fev.'s grounds last year with Leigh last season I would say Post Office Road was a no brainer!!
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| Quote ="CHEADLE LEYTHER"What are the reasons for refusing Featherstone's offer? Having visited both Dewsbury and Fev.'s grounds last year with Leigh last season I would say Post Office Road was a no brainer!!'"
What's a no-brainer is having a strong opinion on a subject you know nothing about; this is a deep, complex and circuitous saga, of which you know only the briefest of headlines. In those circumstances, it's best to keep schtum, rather than be perceived as an ultracrepidarian.
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| Cheadel leyther makes a good point and does not deserve abuse for making it
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| Quote ="bren2k"What's a no-brainer is having a strong opinion on a subject you know nothing about; this is a deep, complex and circuitous saga, of which you know only the briefest of headlines. In those circumstances, it's best to keep schtum, rather than be perceived as an ultracrepidarian.'"
Only asking-Wigan have borrowed our ground several times so why the hostility?
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| Quote ="CHEADLE LEYTHER"What are the reasons for refusing Featherstone's offer? Having visited both Dewsbury and Fev.'s grounds last year with Leigh last season I would say Post Office Road was a no brainer!!'"
A simple answer would be: a move to Fev would weaken the position of the club/trust when dealing with the local authority as they're both in the same authority, Dewsbury comes up Kirklees so would strengthen the position that the councils inaction has forced the club to leave the district. That's far from the right answer as in reality it's a very complex situation spamming three decades, but it's a very simplistic one
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| It's a fair question. I'm sure it was good reasoning to discount Fev (assuming we actually have) but I don't know the reasons.
Ithink would be good to know but I understand we can't always know the details straight away.
Egg's reasoning looks sound to me though. I'd assume that was a factor.
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| Once the Fev offer had been made we could no longer argue that we are being forced out of the district. A move to Dewsbury makes no sense now. Spending money on upgrading a ground we do not own is even morea pointless than spending on BV. We need to negotiate terms with Fev then concentrate on persuading the current fan base to follow us. I cannot see how sharing long term with Fev would get us thrown out of St. Lots of teams share grounds they don't own eg Hull and Wigan.
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"Once the Fev offer had been made we could no longer argue that we are being forced out of the district. A move to Dewsbury makes no sense now. Spending money on upgrading a ground we do not own is even morea pointless than spending on BV. We need to negotiate terms with Fev then concentrate on persuading the current fan base to follow us. I cannot see how sharing long term with Fev would get us thrown out of St. Lots of teams share grounds they don't own eg Hull and Wigan.'"
Hull and Wigan do not share grounds with another rugby league team.
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| Ruling out Fev at this stage is nonsense. Mr Carter needs to start consulting with fans about alternatives. I accept that without Mr Carter we wouldn't have a club to support but he needs to realise he maybe the owner but he is the custodian of Trinity heritage and without the supporters his club is worthless.
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"Ruling out Fev at this stage is nonsense. Mr Carter needs to start consulting with fans about alternatives. I accept that without Mr Carter we wouldn't have a club to support but he needs to realise he maybe the owner but he is the custodian of Trinity heritage and without the supporters his club is worthless.'"
How do we know it's nonsense, we aren't privvy to all the details.
To be fair to the guy he has put the money in so he can make these decisions, he can't consult supporters about
everything. It's frustrating but we have to trust MC.
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| Mr Carter is a very successful, shrewd businessman who has saved this club from extinction and I believe he will continue to do so.
He is playing a game of chess at the moment and yes, the stakes are high, but he has no alternative IMO.
Whatever decision he ultimately makes will be for the benefit of Wakefield Trinity....have faith !!
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| He doesn't consult about anything, Look at the decesion to change kick off time after years of it being 3.30! No explanation. No reasons. Supporters also put money in to this club and often its a large part of their disposable income.
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| I believe one of the reasons was to save on the cost of using the floodlights ??
Due to the dire predicament that Glover and Elston left us in, he has had to cut costs to the bone..
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"He doesn't consult about anything, Look at the decesion to change kick off time after years of it being 3.30! No explanation. No reasons. Supporters also put money in to this club and often its a large part of their disposable income.'"
If you read through the endless stadium threads, the reasons for what is going on now are there for everyone to see.
Nobody really wants to move from BV, after all it's the only place we (the supporters) have known but, what do you want him to do.
Ultimately, if/when we move, everyone will have a choice, whether to go.
For some it may be easier/ better and for some it will be less convenient, just as Newmarket will/would be.
Life goes on, the world keeps turning, perhaps we should see what is on offer (when the time comes).
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"He doesn't consult about anything, Look at the decesion to change kick off time after years of it being 3.30! No explanation. No reasons. Supporters also put money in to this club and often its a large part of their disposable income.'"
He did explain, it was to save money using the floodlights less to save money, at a time when every penny counted!
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand" Supporters also put money in to this club and often its a large part of their disposable income.'"
Then they probably want someone in charge with a level head, business brain, who can see the long term viable picture and who knows what he's doing.
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand" No explanation. No reasons. '"
He did. Must've been before your Mum bought you the laptop.
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| Barrie and Terry entertaining the question of whether Wakey should sell their license...can this talk be all justifiable just because of the ground?
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| Quote ="ball-in-hand"Ruling out Fev at this stage is nonsense. Mr Carter needs to start consulting with fans about alternatives. I accept that without Mr Carter we wouldn't have a club to support but he needs to realise he maybe the owner but he is the custodian of Trinity heritage and without the supporters his club is worthless.'"
Sorry but totally agree with not going to Fev even though it would be a lot closer (for us as a family). We need to leave WMDC if we have to leave Belle Vue altogether .
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