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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Lee Bowyer & Woodgate continued playing for LUFC even through their court case Bowyer played his best football for Leeds during that time'"
Like I said to Vasty, there's more chance of me banging the ball out to Miller from DH than Scott Moore next season
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Like I said to Vasty, there's more chance of me banging the ball out to Miller from DH than Scott Moore next season
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Do you know this for sure, or are you just speculating like others on here.
It would appear from your silly thumbs up you'll be quite happy to see him go
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| Quote ="dickie mint"Do you know this for sure, or are you just speculating like others on here.
It would appear from your silly thumbs up you'll be quite happy to see him go
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Don't think it's a case of him happy to see him go, just because he gives the thumbs up.
The thumbs up could relate to his statement about himself?
For one, I would say BLM is probably more in the know than most on here.
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| Quote ="FickleFingerOfFate"Don't think it's a case of him happy to see him go, just because he gives the thumbs up.
The thumbs up could relate to his statement about himself?
For one, I would say BLM is probably more in the know than most on here.'"
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| Quote ="atomic"Try reading the thread..And I'll gladly answer your question?'"
I've been reading the thread since it began. So again what have you brought to the table that has anything to do with how the Club deals with Moore.
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"Like I said to Vasty, there's more chance of me banging the ball out to Miller from DH than Scott Moore next season
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If it wasn't for the Policeman breaking his wrist, which as a guess happened when they were struggling to cuff him. He would have got away with fines and maybe some Community service. With a Cop getting injured it sort of puts into a whole new category of them coming down on you. Saying that if that's the case and they're looking at sending him down, they'll probably end up at Crown Court and it will take a fair while before that happens , when he hasn't even had a date set for Magistrates yet.
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| Quote ="dickie mint"Do you know this for sure, or are you just speculating like others on here.
It would appear from your silly thumbs up you'll be quite happy to see him go
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Fickle just about sums it up Dick
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| Quote ="PopTart"It all seems over the top for what initially was a speeding issue.
Depends how dangerous the driving was, and of course whether he was drunk etc, whether the police man was injured by accident or whether there was a conscious effort or even someone else involved. There are so many ways the report could be read it's easy to assume he'll be in serious trouble.
None of us know the details, may never know unless he is actually convicted and the report is published'"
And this comment sums it all up for me. if, and i say if, he walks out of court a free man and he is able to continue his profession as a top class Rugby League player i would keep him at Wakey. make him captain of the team, he is at an age now where he has to make a decision on where he wants to be in life. its surprising what a bit of responsibility can do to a person and how he conducts himself in the future. the guy is a top class player and i think with the current squad/signings we have the team will benefit with him been a part of it.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"I've been reading the thread since it began. So again what have you brought to the table that has anything to do with how the Club deals with Moore.'"
Ones a motoring offense,the other is a criminal offense.Do you just think your club can sweep the latter under the carpet?
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| Quote ="atomic"Ones a motoring offense,the other is a criminal offense.Do you just think your club can sweep the latter under the carpet?'"
And what makes you think the club want to sweep it under the carpet? From what. I see, Michael Carter and Chris Bretherton seem totally honourable and work in a transparent sort of way. How many clubs would ban two of their "best" players before the million pound game?
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| Quote ="JINJER"And what makes you think the club want to sweep it under the carpet? From what. I see, Michael Carter and Chris Bretherton seem totally honourable and work in a transparent sort of way. How many clubs would ban two of their "best" players before the million pound game?'"
Banning players internally for off-field issues,doesn't equate to criminal charges,as a club you support them all.Right or wrong.
This scenario,like it or not,is out of the Clubs control.
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| Quote ="atomic"Ones a motoring offense,the other is a criminal offense.Do you just think your club can sweep the latter under the carpet?'"
Quote Banning players internally for off-field issues,doesn't equate to criminal charges,as a club you support them all.Right or wrong.
This scenario,like it or not,is out of the Clubs control.'"
Where have the Club swept it under the carpet exactly? and secondly where has anyone said that what Moore did is in the Clubs control. Carter can't exactly tell the courts to sod off and drop any charges can he. All he can do his what he has said and do a Club investigation. Who knows what Moore's version of events is. Just because the Police charge you with something doesn't make it fact does it. Otherwise each charge would lead to a prosecution.
Ateotd all that's happened so far is that he's answered his bail and he's been re-bailed to come back in March. He hasn't been found guilty of anything, in fact the only report of the incident is from the paper and what he could get charged with at Court. Up till his bail been put back, we all thought he was going for the season but with him not going back till March and for him then to potentially go through the Court process (Mag to Crown), it looks like he might be here for quite some time, which could be near the end of the season.
I'm honestly not sure what points your here to make and tbh you just seem to be on a bit of a wum. Do you think we should just try to sack him and go with the guilty until proven innocent scenario? Ban him and pay his wages till he's found guilty/not guilty? Or while we're paying the player, we should be able to play him, until the Court decides otherwise?
Just wondering, were you all over the Hul KR board when Adam Walker got charged with two offences of attempting to engage in sexual activity with a child. While Hull KR continued to play and support him through it and then the charges end up being dismissed. Or is it just the Moore case you're interest in?
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| There is some rubbish posted on this site about this issue. No one knows what happened to Moore but we will in due course through the courts. If a broken wrist has occurred and a Taser has been deployed then there has been a significant struggle.
CPS prosecute in this century not the police so comments earlier carry no substance. As for Moore being a future captain u need your head testing. .
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| Quote ="asmadasa"There is some rubbish posted on this site about this issue. No one knows what happened to Moore but we will in due course through the courts. If a broken wrist has occurred and a Taser has been deployed then there has been a significant struggle.
[uCPS prosecute in this century not the police so comments earlier carry no substance[/u. As for Moore being a future captain u need your head testing. .
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Are you referring to my earlier comment about the fact the injury happened to a Policeman and the CPS especially look out for Policeman during the course of their duty?
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"Are you referring to my earlier comment about the fact the injury happened to a Policeman and the CPS especially look out for Policeman during the course of their duty?'"
Yes because in my 3 decades of experience they don't...I don't wish to add anything further as its off topic.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Yes because in my 3 decades of experience they don't...I don't wish to add anything further as its off topic.'"
We've been off topic for ages with this Moore thing tbh. I'll just leave this, in my similar experience they do look at any offense against a Police Office very seriously (ABH, GBH, Murder), much more than the average guy on the street. i''ll give an example , when I was a teenager up town, a friend with no previous, he got into a back and forth with a few lads and the Police ran in behind him, he didn't see them and ended up elbowing a Cop in the nose by accident but broke it. The lad got sent to a YOP for 12 months for it. I went to watch his hearing and the Court were very clear that they did not like an assault on a police officer and came down heavily on him for it.
Anyway back on topic.
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| Why do some people still think he's coming back? You've got a guy posting in here, who's son is in the squad, saying there's no chance of him coming back. Doesn't take a genius to figure it out even if the club can't comment publicly.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"We've been off topic for ages with this Moore thing tbh. I'll just leave this, in my similar experience they do look at any offense against a Police Office very seriously (ABH, GBH, Murder), much more than the average guy on the street. i''ll give an example , when I was a teenager up town, a friend with no previous, he got into a back and forth with a few lads and the Police ran in behind him, he didn't see them and ended up elbowing a Cop in the nose by accident but broke it. The lad got sent to a YOP for 12 months for it. I went to watch his hearing and the Court were very clear that they did not like an assault on a police officer and came down heavily on him for it.
Anyway back on topic.'"
Aye that does my 3 decades of policing experience...
Best squad built for years....
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Aye that does my 3 decades of policing experience...
Best squad built for years....'"
I had 12 months dealing with police as well and wished I'd broke a few noses, but again back on topic I too think this is the best squad for a while,hoping Jordan's involved though and can't wait to watch the team play and get better as they gel as a team.
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| Quote ="Shifty Cat"We've been off topic for ages with this Moore thing tbh. I'll just leave this, in my similar experience they do look at any offense against a Police Office very seriously (ABH, GBH, Murder), much more than the average guy on the street. i''ll give an example , when I was a teenager up town, a friend with no previous, he got into a back and forth with a few lads and the Police ran in behind him, he didn't see them and ended up elbowing a Cop in the nose by accident but broke it. The lad got sent to a YOP for 12 months for it. I went to watch his hearing and the Court were very clear that they did not like an assault on a police officer and came down heavily on him for it.
Anyway back on topic.'"
Anyway back off topic - you need to know that CPS are NOT the court. CPS are agents who prosecute cases on behalf of the police but they don't decide sentence - the court do that. I also second a previous comment from an earlier post- from four decades of experience - they certainly do NOT favour the police.
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| Yes, we are WAY off topic now.
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| Quote ="Wildthing"Yes, we are WAY off topic now.
Let's get back on topic please.'"
OK - Potentially the best squad for years. What we need is the senior players to LEAD - no heads down and no floodgates opening!
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| Quote ="Trinity1315"OK - Potentially the best squad for years. What we need is the senior players to LEAD - no heads down and no floodgates opening!'"
Correct. Too many times at the latter end of the season did we seem to just give up when the game was out of sight.
Points difference and respectablity should still be on the players minds.
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