Jeez you guys will argue over anything.

If Murphy wants to Ho then so be it.
I quite like the way the team is shaping up. Few more significant signings to go but good so far.

Murphy's good, but not going to be an international anytime soon if ever. He wanted to leave, so be it. I don't see this as the massive issue others are making it into.

Me neither.

Completely agree.

what staying on and playing for a pittance compared to what he was offered from several other clubs , yeah burn that darn murphy . you have little concept of real/fantasy world

is this an admission of your absence of the old grey matter then?

This is my first post and i will be stating further facts later.
I felt i had to let people know the TRUE story instead of what Elston is stating about trying to keep him. (Total Rubbish - Thats how clubs work make it look like the player has no loyalty even though aaron proved last season he was loyal to the club)
Aaron did NOT want to go he was forced so the club could get a fee.Aaron made it 100% clear he wanted to stay and based on 2 new centres coming in, it was seen as a good bit of business by the club, whilst also getting 2 forwards as part of the deal. Rather than being honest they made it look like it was aaron's wish - It wasnt ! He is going against his wishes.
Tommy Lee has gone to Huddersfield on Agar's insistance because of issues with him at Hull.....and again another huddersfield cast off (Wood) to replace him too. Its a great move for Tommy as he clearly was not going to get a chance with agar based on the past so joining a top 6 club is a bonus for him.
Tongia wont be staying........unbelievably the people running the club could not see his potential last season and failed to offer him a contract prior to other clubs being alerted so he is gone, morro on his way out another cost cutting exercise replced by Hull reject. compare morro to his replacement......what a joke.
Why are the club getting rid of better players and replacing them with Giants cast off's ? its laughable.
Andrew Glover.....great bloke, heart in the club but being advised by the wrong people.
and one last quote based on the above post........under Agar no youngsters will get any gametime next season thats how it is with him. welcome to the Agar Era.......Hull FC cant believe their good fortune.

Wwildcat48 - not being funny mate but that's your first post and you expect us to take that as fact

Fwiw my opinion is we should the trust the people who's job it is to build the team to to do there job, far too early to see the big picture, with a new coach bound to be changes. Judge the team in Jan/Feb not now, far too early

No offence but I doubt the integrity of your post. Classic troll for me.

OK you are at it again, Smurph stayed this season becuase Hudds offered him a deal but would not have got their side this season, he accepetd the deal in the belief that Wakey would not get a franchise, hey presto we do

As I keep reminding you please go 8 miles

I am sure Cas would would welcome you invaluable input and magnificent support of your team

Most seem happy with the total deal done with shuds, but taking the Murphy deal seperate let me ask a couple of questions.

Are we happy we have brought in 2 overseas centres and sold our own local produced player?

The 1873 club was set up to produce AND retain top juniors, where does the schemes involment finish with these players?

Knowing a little about Murph, I don't believe he would have left without a little cohersion from certain partys.

Anyway the deal is done now, I just hope that the longer term benefits are to the club advantage.


Foot note
If we have chosen not to signed Tongia, I think the club have made a grave error, the guy had class written all over him with much, much more to come.

I dont give a rats what you think mate, let me give you the tip.....players and their friends and family read some of the that is posted on here by people who know absolutely nothing at all, and just waste their life making wild guesses and assumptions.
This was about transfer fee and being able to strengthen the squad which is understandable but not twisting the whole thing to suit and save face.

yep just like Ted

I am sure that there will be more comings and goings before the season as there will be with all Super League clubs and I am also sure that our squad will have a stronger look to it by the first game of the season than it currently does.

I'm sure you agree that respect is hard earned, and while everyone at the club IMO is doing a sterling job, that doesn't mean that every decision should be blindly followed.
What's best for the club, is what matters, not the individual and not necessarily what fans agree with.
I remember Keegan getting flagged off on the steps of St James park, when he sold Andy Cole, the rabble were quick to go quiet when he signed Alan Shearer.
Sometimes you have to be prepared to make a sacrifice to go forward, in the case of AM, a fee for team strengthening plus the addition of two decent squad players is a result as far as I can see.
Fans forget that to the people who have to balance the books and make the club progress have to view it with at least one eye on business, not both eyes on fanaticism.
Time will tell if this sacrifice has worked, all I can say with any confidence is, we are looking far healthier going into this forthcoming season than when we kicked off at MM, and for now that is progress, but the challenge for all at the club is to keep that progress year on year.

When Leeds say they want him

I would have liked to have kept him but players come and go. I can't remember there being this much aggro over Ellis and Solo who are/were twice the player that Murphy, although admirable in his own right, is

It's the way of life, until things improve substantially, and we are years away from that, but step by step I'm sure we'll get there.

sorry poptart but what wildcat 48 is saying is absolutely 100%. i personally know some of the people involved and his post is correct

I think you're missing the point, it doesn't matter wether he's right or wrong.
What matters is, will we be in a better or worse place as a result of it?
And to be honest we won't know for certain until the end of next season, if we're not then people making the decisions will rightfully get some stick. If we are these criticisms will be forgotten.

I think the point being made isn't about the logic of the deal but the spin being put on why AM left the club. It seems that those in charge knew there'd be a backlash to Murphy leaving and so they've lied about him WANTING to go than them selling him against his wishes.

There has been talk for sometime of AM receiving a gift of a car from Hudds a while ago, can anyone shed any light on this?

Smurph wouldnt get infront of Grix??? Why dont you go to Cas seen as you are willing to see our young academy products go and see old crocks come in senior will be next mark my words ... Smurph did not want to go we could have kept him i dont believe for one instant smurph had made his mind up and wanted to go to the crows. Hes been pushed .. We are a feeder club.

I havent read any so I'm not sure, nor have I read anything from AM stating otherwise.

There are many points in this that are untrue. Fact