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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."It sounds to me like you are trying to make yourself feel better, and I don't blame you. I would be the same. But if you guys go into administration you can kiss good bye to super league. If you do go down I can't see any of the championship clubs putting in a better application next tme round. You just have to stick by your club. I am a Cas fan, I know all about it.'"
If we do go down then i can only see Tolouse providing anysort of opposistion for us coming back up in 2015 providing we get the stadium.
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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."It sounds to me like you are trying to make yourself feel better, and I don't blame you. I would be the same. But if you guys go into administration you can kiss good bye to super league. If you do go down I can't see any of the championship clubs putting in a better application next tme round. You just have to stick by your club. I am a Cas fan, I know all about it.'" expecting to be ridiculed from you and you have made me feel more humble, when we relegated you I was caught between relief and ecstasy, I doubt our club could survive a drop down the way fans are dropping off
as much as I would like to blame the BOD for being incompetent, the fans for being so fickle, I truly blame the RFL applying pressure at a time when even the ardent fan is finding it a struggle to the money to come and watch
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| Quote ="snowie"expecting to be ridiculed from you and you have made me feel more humble, when we relegated you I was caught between relief and ecstasy, I doubt our club could survive a drop down the way fans are dropping off
as much as I would like to blame the BOD for being incompetent, the fans for being so fickle, I truly blame the RFL applying pressure at a time when even the ardent fan is finding it a struggle to the money to come and watch'"
I have been saying exactly the same for some time mate, we are in the biggest reccession in living memory for some adults and the RFL are pressurising clubs to build new stadiums. Thats right - NEW STADIUMS!! Its not like its a small thing they are asking us to do. The building industry is on its harris. They could cause clubs to fold with such demands. Its a bloody joke, and so are the RFL.
The other thing is, how can they say one club will come up and one will go down BEFORE they have evaluated the applications. What if all the clubs in SL are better than the championship ones, do they still send a club down because they said thats what they were going to do. It wouldn't stand up in court, but of course the clubs have been stopped from taking it to court by the RFL.
Franchising does make the sport stronger if it gets rid of relegation, but it hasn't. Its just every three years now, and the RFL get to choose who to send down, and make ludicrous demands of clubs. The Aussies just add to the league, whats wrong with that?
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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."I have been saying exactly the same for some time mate, we are in the biggest reccession in living memory for some adults and the RFL are pressurising clubs to build new stadiums. Thats right - NEW STADIUMS!! Its not like its a small thing they are asking us to do. The building industry is on its harris. They could cause clubs to fold with such demands. Its a bloody joke, and so are the RFL.
The other thing is, how can they say one club will come up and one will go down BEFORE they have evaluated the applications. What if all the clubs in SL are better than the championship ones, do they still send a club down because they said thats what they were going to do. It wouldn't stand up in court, but of course the clubs have been stopped from taking it to court by the RFL.
Franchising does make the sport stronger if it gets rid of relegation, but it hasn't. Its just every three years now, and the RFL get to choose who to send down, and make ludicrous demands of clubs. The Aussies just add to the league, whats wrong with that?'"
Well said mate.
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| Quote ="Therailwayendisuponus."I have been saying exactly the same for some time mate, we are in the biggest reccession in living memory for some adults and the RFL are pressurising clubs to build new stadiums. Thats right - NEW STADIUMS!! Its not like its a small thing they are asking us to do. The building industry is on its harris. They could cause clubs to fold with such demands. Its a bloody joke, and so are the RFL.
The other thing is, how can they say one club will come up and one will go down BEFORE they have evaluated the applications. What if all the clubs in SL are better than the championship ones, do they still send a club down because they said thats what they were going to do. It wouldn't stand up in court, but of course the clubs have been stopped from taking it to court by the RFL.
Franchising does make the sport stronger if it gets rid of relegation, but it hasn't. Its just every three years now, and the RFL get to choose who to send down, and make ludicrous demands of clubs. The Aussies just add to the league, whats wrong with that?'"
Great post - well said.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"If we do go down then i can only see Tolouse providing anysort of opposistion for us coming back up in 2015 providing we get the stadium.'"
I cannot see us surviving let alone pushing for promotion/franchise for 4 years should we go down/lose franchise stadium or no stadium. We were only getting 1 - 1,500 before we got promoted how many are gonna watch NL1 with no prospect of promotion and who is going to fund it?
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| Dont wish to sound alarmist but isnt the court winding up order tomorrow?? Should we not have heard by now what is happening if its good news?
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| Quote ="chapster"Dont wish to sound alarmist but isnt the court winding up order tomorrow?? Should we not have heard by now what is happening if its good news?'"
It's alright mate, the fire.....sorry mega.....sale will have raised enough to pay the tax
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| TRB (or someone) tell me everythings going to be alright?
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| Well the club have not entered into administration yet so unless things change later evening they will either be wound up or continue trading.
I'm led to believe the club have an agreed payment plan with HMRC but their representative wanted it rubber stamped legally, hence this court action.
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| Quote ="chapster"TRB (or someone) tell me everythings going to be alright?'"
It's going to be alright!
Tomorrow is another day!
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| Quote ="TRB"It's going to be alright!
Tomorrow is another day!
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Hope to god you're right - a friend told me on Saturday that a banking friend of his had heard that we had already applied to go into administration .
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Hope to god you're right - a friend told me on Saturday [uthat a banking friend of his[/u had heard that we had already applied to go into administration .'"
Would believe Pinocchio before a banker
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| We all know the rhyming slang for a banker !
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Hope to god you're right - a friend told me on Saturday that a banking friend of his had heard that we had already applied to go into administration .'"
I have heard rumours of the same thing from some people very close to your club but i was'nt going to post anything as i knew i would just get accused of trolling (I probbably still will), but these guys have never been too far off the mark in the past. Also do any of you on here find it a bit strange how people at your club keep playing this down as a non story, Fair enough with a bit of luck for you this could all be sorted tomorow for you but to show so little fear of a winding up order seems very strange to me. afterall why would HMRC issue one of these if there was no problem there to be sorted .
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| Quote ="tigerman10"I have heard rumours of the same thing from some people very close to your club but i was'nt going to post anything as i knew i would just get accused of trolling (I probbably still will), but these guys have never been too far off the mark in the past. Also do any of you on here find it a bit strange how people at your club keep playing this down as a non story, Fair enough with a bit of luck for you this could all be sorted tomorow for you but to show so little fear of a winding up order seems very strange to me. afterall why would HMRC issue one of these if there was no problem there to be sorted .'"
I am predicting that your 'guys' will be proved wrong tomorrow!
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| Quote ="tigerman10"I have heard rumours of the same thing from some people very close to your club but i was'nt going to post anything as i knew i would just get accused of trolling (I probbably still will), but these guys have never been too far off the mark in the past. Also do any of you on here find it a bit strange how people at your club keep playing this down as a non story, Fair enough with a bit of luck for you this could all be sorted tomorow for you but to show so little fear of a winding up order seems very strange to me. afterall why would HMRC issue one of these if there was no problem there to be sorted .'"
Who are these people? How close are they to the Club? Do they live next door?
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| Quote ="J.T"Who are these people? How close are they to the Club? Do they live next door?'"
Doncaster Road, is that close enough for you
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| Quote ="tigerman10"Doncaster Road, is that close enough for you
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It's a long road so you need to be more specific to satisfy me.
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Hope to god you're right - a friend told me on Saturday that a banking friend of his had heard that [uwe had already applied to go into administration[/u .'"
Wishful thinking on the part of some.
If we go into administration we are finished as a Super League club for good. No point having a shiny new stadium if we don't have a future in Super League.
Why would we apply for administration ? Our debt is with HMRC - they don't accept CVA's and payment of 20p in the £ - you pay in full or are liquidated. So if we go into administration what are the advantages - lose SL status and still owe the Tax Man. We either pay HMRC (or agree a payment plan) or we are wound up.
Don't believe those who are wishing this on us to put them in a better position themselves - wait for the facts.
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"Wishful thinking on the part of some.
If we go into administration we are finished as a Super League club for good. No point having a shiny new stadium if we don't have a future in Super League.
Why would we apply for administration ? Our debt is with HMRC - they don't accept CVA's and payment of 20p in the £ - you pay in full or are liquidated. So if we go into administration what are the advantages - lose SL status and still owe the Tax Man. We either pay HMRC (or agree a payment plan) or we are wound up.
Don't believe those who are wishing this on us to put them in a better position themselves - wait for the facts.'"
Agree with all you've said above - i only posted what i had heard as administration was creeping into earlier posts .
Maybe he's a Cas banker !
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| Quote ="Spongebob"Agree with all you've said above - i only posted what i had heard as administration was creeping into earlier posts .
Maybe he's a Cas banker !
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I've heard that there's a lot of "bankers" in Castleford and one or two in Featherstone. Probably some in Wakefield as well.
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| Genuine question, would the HMRC be willing to agree another payment plan when the one agreed earlier in the year has led to the club being issued another winding up order?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Genuine question, would the HMRC be willing to agree another payment plan when the one agreed earlier in the year has led to the club being issued another winding up order?'"
Who are you asking ? With respect that's a question for HMRC.
We will either be here tomorrow or wound up. Wait and see.
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