Nothing wrong with that, it may be blunt and direct but it’s on the mark, can you point out the actual bit you object to?




No one’s currently donating at Wakefield Trinity and never have!
I do get your point though, anyone buying into a sports club expecting to make money is an idiot

Apologies there.

It was Glover, and I can vouch that he invested, as I recorded the bank transactions.

Sadly, though the best intentions were there with some decisions, things weren’t worked through correctly

I know he isn't now, and hasn't been, I think since November 2018, however when he came out with that, he de definitely was.

Whether you would do better or worse is immaterial.

You questioned Carter's commitment and that is just wrong.

For all we can agree/argue about Lineham/Gaskell/2nd Rowers/Tanginoa/etc, etc, etc = decisions heavily involving Carter, I just don't see how anyone can question his commitment. I think the club (he), has got lots wrong - just an opinion of course.

No wonder he flippantly says he'll sell the club for a quid.

Both him and Ted previously!

Maybe thinking/working things through is one of MC's stronger points?

Ok we’re in real bloody mess where do we go from here ,where staring a relegation!

You only have to read the Facebook stuff to see what a bunch of absolute so called supporters post. Can you imagine standing next to them as a first time supporter? We will never progress with such a bunch of doom ladened miserable glass half full Sherman Tankers. Yes, things are crap, worse that for a long time. If there is no effort against Leeds then yes, we know what to expect but don’t you think something may be being sorted behind the scenes to help the situation. Well, I hope so.

Dude =dumb

The facebook pages are comedy gold. One clown after another trying to out-whine the other. Looking for back slaps and brownie points within the group and all done with the best interest of the club at heart obviously!

I know it is not one person’s fault but those in charge at all levels had better sort it out quickly or if relegated we will have wasted any gains made since promotion. We are on the brink of a redeveloped stadium but outside SL a lot of this will be lost because crowds will fall both home and away support.
I hope we don’t think that promotion is guaranteed because the Championship is the hardest league to get out of.

When MC et al sold the Yorkshire Traction bus company (which is where I assume his "riches" stemmed from) the purchaser was the Stagecoach bus company which is owned by the Gloag family, one of the richest families in the country. Stagecoach aren't having all that good a time at the moment, I believe, but if MC retained any friendship with the Gloags in the wake of the sale, I wonder if they could direct a fraction of their millions our way. How about having a friendly word Mr C?

Couple of quick points, might I remind you we are not in the championship so your fears are academic and just plain scaremongering, also what do you base your theory on that it's the hardest league to get out of other than if's and buts.

No but I didn’t say we were but it is a possibility don’t you think. If we use your hypothesis then we need not worry until we are relegated then we can look at what we can do but until then denial is the best because no one would notice and to point it out is irresponsible. It is by nature that in all sports the league below the top is the hardest to get out of because of the rewards from promotion.
I hope that explains the situation because you like to ask a question what do you think. I have not problem if you wish to believe everything is going great but please don’t try to blame those who lack your blind faith.

I'm pretty sure everyone knows that relegation is a possibility.
But we are not in the relegation place yet so it's worth trying to win some more games and see how it goes rather than concentrating on the what bad things might happen don't you think?

I have said it’s better to sort things out before we are relegated but currently our performances have been less than impressive. We should look to win more games but we had over two weeks to prepare for Sunday and yet nothing changed.
I would say you are concentrating on good things but unfortunately for the majority of this season and the 4 previous these have been somewhat missing. I am sorry if it disgusts your red, white and blue outlook but it is something you will need to face unless things change and I don’t know how.

If you don't have a red white and blue outlook, why are you here? Isn't that what we all have supporting Wakefield Trinity?

To support a club means you want the best for that club but not blindly accept what we are being served without question. We pay our money but ultimately it is down to those running, coaching and playing for Wakefield to ensure we have something to at least be proud of. We haven’t had that for several seasons but we still pay our money. I would say the club are lucky that they have such loyalty which let’s be honest has not been reciprocated by the team on many occasions.
We all know that relegation will mean many will move on but we the supporters will remain. We can do no more so over to the club to do their part of the deal and start performing at every level.

So what does a red white and blue outlook mean then if not wanting the best for Wakefield Trinity?

Yes it does but for you it includes removing any questions regarding the club and our poor performances in many games.

I haven't removed anything and I've been critical of some things. I just like to see the whole picture and point out good things too. Some forget to do that.

You actually state that "if the CEO knew of such people he would be onto it" IT IS THE JOB OF THE CEO TO DO THIS !!!
So you yourself have said that the CEO of wakefield isn't able to get the correct investment needed,
In what other business would anyone be appointed to CEO if he/she did not posses the skillset to bring in the type of investment needed.
Nobody is saying Mr Carter hasn't done a decent job saving the club but unfortunately we need more and this is quite simply down to the Chairman and CEO to bring in such investment or employ the right people with the skills to do it.
Yes this will be a hard job but that is why they are the Chairman/CEO of this club.
Just imagine if a top business was failing and the Chairman and CEO failed to stop the rot and bring in what was needed,do you think the rest of the board/shareholders would be happy and just say "it's hard to find the investment needed" or would they make sure they did whatever was needed to put a CEO in place that could find the investment

can't help but smile at your posts, I can remember when TRB was on and you nicknamed him Ted Richardsons Bagman after his initials and his constant defending of the club. You've now turned into Mr Carter and the clubs chief apologist, in fact why don't you change your name to MCs lovechild, it will fit in well in your portfolio of usernames from over the years which you real out when it suits. You seem to have a lot of opinions when by your own admission you've done with the club, have no interest in it and don't attend anymore. Your basic aim on here is to deliver snide comments and stir the pot and its become quite sickly. Mud sticks old boy

1) this isn't a top business
2) if there are no willing investors then being good at getting them doesn't help
3) we don't have shareholders
4) just to be clear, you are at best a customer

Again I think you are trying to manipulate what is being said
We are playing in the "Elite" level of rugby league so the analagy with a top business is correct

As for "no willing investors" again I fail to agree that there are not willing investors around the country or even further and again its down to the chairman and CEO to bring these in.
It really is simple business sense.

3 As for shareholders, again that is who a CEO/Chairman would answer to in normal business (in effect the supporters are the o es they have to answer to in this)

4 In a poorly run club yes you are correct at best I am a customer and as such is the reason we are in the mess we have been for numerous years,in a properly run successful club I would be a valued asset who could have input and my opinions listened to.
Do we have a fans steering group that can report to the board ?
How often are we going around the local schools,groups ,clubs Etc..again I'm sure some supporters would be willing to go give some time up to do this if asked.
The statement I heard in a big work meeting last month rang completely true with our situation
IF WE ALWAYS DO WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE WE WILL ALWAYS GET WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS GOT.

First of all I'll not underline your point as you've done it for me with the cap locks, it is the job of the CEO to get investors on board I'm sure nobody knows that more than him, but getting investors on board in this financial climate with no guarantee of a return is impossible, simple question would you put your hard earned into a rugby league club? don't bother answering that because you've already pointed out your feelings, he's done marvellously well getting the sponsorship he's got, unfortunately not enough as I'm sure he'll be the first to admit it, and please don't try and put words into my mouth as quite frankly my dear your not bright enough, what I said was that the CEO wasn't able to get the correct investment he would like, not the same is it.

Well first of all I'm clued up as to the pecking order of the management of the club and apologies if I've got it wrong but isn't Mr Carter the main investor in the club, and did he not step down as chairman and made himself the CEO to split the job description to bring Mr Maynard apologies for not knowing his name to give him more responsibility in the club, so nobody has really give him any responsibility, and I might just add that after 8 years or so it's a bit late to question his skillset regarding generating investment in the club, and yes your implying that he is no longer capable of doing the job, you and the other two anti Carter members.
Just one other point to clear up, THE BUSINESS IS NOT FAILING, see what I did there does that make me as clever as you? the business isn't exactly thriving but it's debt free apart from the serviceable mortgage for our own ground due to be expanded and improved, all the bills and the wages are paid, does that sound like failure to you, sorry don't answer that, it's either the coaching staff or the players or a bit of both that's letting the side down not the directors.