If we are going to replace Kear we should do it sooner rather than later, so the new coach can get the team HE wants for next season

Agree

I concur.

Thats the name I was going to mention for the reason you've put. Apparently him and his players are pretty peeved he never even got a chance to apply for the vacant job at Penrith. Love to see him here, I would expect he would be in our price range.

A possible problem with Georgalis, or a.n.other Aussie coach; they don't know the UK-based players. He may be able to uncover a couple of pearls from over there, but If we are looking to get a largely British squad who will do the recruitment?

You have to give him credit he certainly has a big set of balls.

He is starting to sound exactly like Noble when everyone knew it was time for him to go at Wigan. Using the media to try to manipulate his way back in.

Can't blame him really as I anticipate leaving Wakefield would mean the end of his top flight career.

In my opinion and what I hear from the players it would be near impossible for him to stay, but I guess with the pressure of the franchise decision now lifted opinions may change also.

What ever is happening with Kear,it needs resolving urgently.

Personally,thanks for your efforts JK,but bye bye.

We need to start looking at recruitment for next season and beyond asap and this would be best done having resolved the head coach situation.

i think that this is key too. we're already way behind the others in terms of recruitment and will be picking over the slops before long. in depth knowledge of the british game is required, but somebody that could bring in three willie poching type imports would be welcome!

Which is where the british-based assistant will be so important.

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I think we lack a director of rugby type role. Someone to oversee and co-ordinate all on-field aspects of the club. In charge of recruitment and player development in tandem with the respective coaches and conditioner. Setting out targets for individual players and seeking recruits in line with the head coach's requirements. Also dealing with players' agents. The coaches can then concentrate on coaching.

this has been john kear's downfall imo. he's tried to do the above, as well as his own job. the fallout that he hasn't been able to do either job as well as he could do either one if that's all he had to do.

Just to put the other point of view I'd like Kear to have a go with good money and a good backroom set up behind him.
I have no love for our current conditioning programme so I think I'd spend some money there, and I'd go back throught he coaching programmes through the club and plug the gaps taht were left when the likes of Johnny T got the push.
We need skills training at young levels if we want to bring on our young players. Although he sets the strategy, it's too late if young players are getting to first team and they are looking to Kear to teach them how to pass and tackle.

BUT, if he is to go, I agree with the posters who say it should be done now. Want new coach in ahead of the off season.

Nigel Wright. Thinks he was at Penrith before he came back to England. Might have already worked with this guy.

Georgallis says in that article that he's determined to stay in Aus.

There must be others like him though who could use a time limited stint in ESL to beef up their credentials for a return to the NRL?

If we go shopping in the Kear, Noble or Powell aisle, I fear we'll be sending out a strong message to the RL world that even with a chance for greatness, we went for the backward looking, regressive option; "typical Wakey" they'll sneer, laughing at our small-town attitude and lack of ambition - it's imperative we don't let that happen!

The murmurings I've heard is that the players have lost respect for JK. Think an advisory role would suit him perfectly, we need a new coach with dynamic ideas. JK would be good to have upstairs taretting potential signings and being a bit of a father figure if needed for the players. I was livid with him stating his desire to coach Cas but we were all very tense at the time, he was trying to look out for his own future, don't agree with him going public but whats been done has been done. After 6 years here he's bound to have feelings for this club so he could still be used as an asset for us.

Noble turned Wigan around and McGuire polished them off. He then turned Cru from wooden spooners to top eight contenders. Feath play some great rugby under Powell and I think he is ready for a step up to the super league, I also believe the time spent in the Championship by Harrison has fared him well too and he would also be another to consider. I'd have Wright back in a shot as assistant, he'd be great for the young talent such as Davey Wildie and Moore.
Georgallis would be a good call but it looks like hes determined to stay in oz.

Its all about opinions, don't think any one of us is wrong, we just differ

Agreed but with a shopping list of

1. Ground developments- Keep the licensing thing in order
2. Strengthen the 1st team with a view to not panic buying players released from other clubs
3. A new coach - Worth a thread on its own as to whom and what we need to bring in to move the club forward.
4. JK in an advisory role - that he might not even want

Georgallis is on the Cas possibles list too

For me, if JK, Nobby or Powell were the real deal, they'd have top 5 SL clubs beating a path to their door; they haven't and there's good reasons for that.

Oz is, unfortunately, where it's at right now in terms of modern coaching methods, conditioning and sports science. There is a compromise however, that doesn't necessarily fall into the 'oz is best' mentality and I've suggested it many times before: Bring in an NRL assistant coach on a time limited, 3 year contract and allow him to totally clear out the back room, with free reign to instill a brand new culture around the playing side of the club. The only stipulation on that free reign however is that he works with and mentors a young British assistant coach and puts a proper succession plan in place for him to take over. It could even be part of his role to use his contacts at Aus clubs to arrange a work placement at an NRL club, to accelerate the learning curve.

We could be progressive on this!

Have to agree, Noble would be OK if we wanted to survive or just close the gap. However for me NOW is our big chance to actually make a leap and possibly challenge for real.

This is what unfashionable Bradford did at the start of SL when they went for a relatively unknown but progressive and ambitious coach in Brian Smith. We need to find the new Smith, it won't be easy but if we want to make real strides we will have to do it.

Sadly and I mean sadly there just are not IMHO the English coaches who poccess that mentality. All that young coaches like Powell or Harris seem to do is ape (without the attention to detail) the Aussies they learnt under, rather than implement their own ideas. Maybe it's fear or a lack of belief from other players, fans and Chairman in anything British. They also don't seem to have the natural charisma of Aussie coaches which didn't used to be the case.

Whatever we can't afford to mess around and Aussies offer more chance IMO of an instant solution which we need.

Now is the best chance we will ever get to go from a reactive club to a proactive one which basically means losing mentality to winning mentality.

its saying on the sky sports ticker john kear will be having a meeting with the club to discuss his future

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For me its not just about player identification, its about being able to coach them to play an exciting brand of RL that is also successful and bring the clubs youth players through in to the first team.

JK should not continue as head coach because I don't think he has any of these attributes and a Director of Rugby role would IMO just cause problems as Kear would be selecting the kind of players to sign for how he wants to play the game (ie Senior etc..) rather than the type of player which would complement the new coaches methods.

I have said it before and I stand by it, the squad we have this season is capable of playing better RL then it has done and IMO the problems lie in coaching and conditioning.

Andrew Glover and James Elston have done a tremondous job on the application, don't waste that progress by sticking with the current coaching team. A clean sweep and fresh start is required.

It needs to be done relatively quickly so we can sort out who we want to keep and who we want to go after player wise.

Which is fair enough, however, the club should put feelers out too to see who is interested so they can make a sound judgement.