If not really giving a toss how a player dresses in a photo makes me small minded then so be it.

Getting sponsorship is nothing to do with how players look, it is to do with performance on and off the field.

How am I over reacting? You're the one who made the dumbass beach bum comment.

Funny how you can remember the apparent specifics of a speech but you can't remember what the meeting was for.

Why have you attempted to make your comments personal, you nothing about my 'old man' (as you put it)

Was really holding out hope for a decent quality aussie play maker, if this is it then its a real let down, although we dont know where kear plans to play him yet

That said kear is master of rejuvenating guys who have lost there way and getting the best out of cast offs, and lets not beat about the bush, smith is a cast off

All that said If kear thinks he's up to it then he'll do for me, We've seen kear do this many times before and he 4/5 times gets it right

Personal??? Remember this?

How personal is that?
Look, I infered our club image should be higher up the food chain than of a beach bum. I'm sure Jeremy is a really nice guy but he could have made an effort on his first day. By the way, you brought in "tuxedo's" that's YOU over reacting to my comment.
I told you what the meeting was for, electing a chairman or a president. So I can't remember which, big deal.

As for your first comment, "getting spnsorship has nothing to do with how a player looks." Well, wake up to reality. If I was looking for a pro sports club to invest in (take the word "invest" however you want) I wouldn't waste my time on such a down at heel outfit like Trinity. That's the impression whether you like it or not and believe me, I'm not alone and we arn't awash with investers and sponsors are we???. Maybe you've lived your whole life in tracky bottoms and trainers and feel that's the bees knees but some see it differently.
Take this example as part of a bigger picture. We may have a new ground soon, lets not spoil the ship etc.

Just to give you some background I work in the commercial department of a Football League club and I have never once been asked how players dress.

The most important thing they want to know is where there money is going and how they benefit from being involved. I can tell you now a players wardrobe is never clincher of any deals.

Then you will know that even Aston Villa now require a dress code and that extends to visitors to the corporate boxes.
and this
[i=#FF4040"First impressions are key these days and what better way to give you that extra confidence boost and get the edge on your competitors than by knowing that you are showing the best you have to offer."[/i Not my words but working in a commercial dept. I'm sure you'll have come across such advice. So look at the bigger picture, raise the bar etc. What I'm suggesting isn't revolutionary, in fact over the years Trinity, particularly in the 60s, expected the players to make an effort when representing the club.

Let me get this straight,you're saying that rugby players, dressed in the teams tracksuit,will put off potential investors .They must also maintain short back and sides and be clean shaven at all times,to keep potential investors happy.It's funny really, because before the game when your watching the 2 teams warm up or the players who are watching,I've never noticed that Trinity is on the whole, more scruffy than the opposing team.I think if you have a bone to pick,it must be with the whole of Super League as well.

Jeremy Smith will be sponsored by Sandal Post Office next season so they have not been put off by his appearance in the photograph.

Maybe so but had he had a suit and tie on he could have been sponsored by Royal Mail.

BINGO!

Let me just put you straight:
He wasn't dressed in the teams tracksuit cept for the top maybe.

Who mentioned short back and sides?

Who mentioned "clean shaven"?

He wasn't in "warming up" kit and more importantly, the occasion wasn't a "warming up" exersize.

Please keep up and look at the original full length photo and don't twist my words to suit your argument.

Look, you all obviously want Trinity's image to be stuck in a 90s grunge / chav un-proffesional timewarp and that's your choice, I would like to see better. Simple as. However, you know best...good luck.

PS
I only made a passing comment at how scruffy I (as a potential sponsor) found the guy and therefore the clubs presentation. I'v no doubt he will appeal to the majority of terrace fans, chavs corner especially. I wasn't impressed, simple as.

Will be interesting to see how long he lasts now.

Only on a 12 month contract so unless he gets homesick I should be okay.

That's just ridiculous, Royal Mail would be too small. The likes of Fed Ex or UPS would be in a bidding war. While we are at it, why don't we all turn up to the first home game suited and booted it might catch the eye of Bill Gates or the Dubai Royal Family. Take over complete, financial future secure and all because we got dressed up.

I am going to use Miro's input and put the economy back on track, everybody dress smartly and the money will come flooding in.

You realise that's why Ted can't get new investment it is nothing to do with his valuation or wanting the right person to take us forward. It is the fashion, the lack of players in suits and a coach who allows a new signing to wear something casual and has the nerve to wear a polo shirt in the same photo.

God knows what any sponsor will think of the Mariano photo he is so last season in the fashion stakes and Parker well he is featured wearing a shirt of another country entirely.

Jeremy was not great for Salford but does not mean he wont be for you. New challenges, motivation, coaching and colleagues can sometimes be just what a player needs. When fans lose one of their own to another Club the automatic assumption is that they wont be missed/not good enough/insert negative comment here. Sometimes that is the case, and sometimes not.

I have a soft spot for Wakey and hope he does a job for you.

I would be more concerned with what he can bring to the pitch rather than what he is wearing, fwiw...

I agree it seems to be the norm now on all club site forums to slag off any player that leaves their club either by the players own choice or not!

Gleeson's rubbish!

We all said that when he was here and now he has left, Gleeson is the exception that prooves the rule.

Not sure, he had a shocking season last year but he was good the previous 2.

Whoooosh!

I was replying to this comment you left,
'Last season I took some friends of mine to a game. sat in the east Stand were squad members who were not playing. Most were unshaven, dressed in scruff and to be honest, resembled outlaws from a refugee camp'
You might have not mentioned you wanted them clean shaven,but why mention they were unshaven,it must mean you'd rather see the player shaved.How do you get I want the Trinitys' image 'stuck in a 90s grunge / chav un-proffesional timewarp ' from what i said.My reply had nothing to do with the photo of Smith,it was a response to your story of you taking a friend to watch Trinity play and players resembled outlaws from a refugee camp,dressed in scruff.When I go to watch Trinity play,the players who are not picked or injured are usually dressed in one or other of the clubs tops and tracksuits,so i don't know where your coming from.

In the Latu mold then lol!

Yes your right about "shaving," my apologies, but I stand by everything else and I honestly thought it helpful to pass on the comments made to me over the years =#BF0040so don't shoot the messenger. Plus, "Where am I coming from"? My own eyes of course.
As a footnote, on Friday I was talking to an "all time great" ex Trinity player from the 60s who has attended numerous formal functions where players attend and he is dismayed by the players who think it OK to appear in beach wear, (flip flops included) and a generally unkempt appearance (Aussies being the worst culprits). Defend or deny this all you like but many [iaren't[/i impressed but on the other hand I can't think of one person who would be unimpressed were they to make an effort on all these occasion. However, I'm sure there are occasions when they do make the effort, and rightly so.
And so I now await to see the quality and quantity of investors, sponsors etc for the coming season.

I don't feel as strongly about it as the original complainant, but I did prefer the days when players and club officials appeared in a suit and club tie; it does seem that there's been a general dumbing down, which might not make an obvious material difference, but it does alter the perception of our sport in terms of self-respect and professionalism.

I'd also echo the feeling that Aussies seem to be at the vanguard of this dress-down approach, with Nathan Brown one of the worst offenders; scruffy oiks.

I'm not bothered what they wear as long as they win.

It's not at the top of my agenda to be honest, I just preferred it 'back in the day'. I find myself thinking that a lot thesedays though, so it could be an age thing.