Sums up my mood perfectly, and with regards to Toulouse they did not invite them into the championship for a laugh, and with them now supposedly being invited by the RFL to apply for SL I am getting more and more convinced that neither of us will get a franchise, unless the rumours over finance at Quins and Crusaders are true and things go wrong for either of them.

I know it is sad to lose a club from Superleague, but their are many teams in the Championship who would love a chance.Me personally would prefer relegation and promotion every year.If was the case London,Catalans, and Salford be under threat now.I support Widnes and it has been difficult to go games when their is no away support, and not so many good players.£300,000 cap does not help,and i am sure if Widnes get a chance, the attendances would over double with good away support from Wire,Wigan, and Saints.If we did not have a great youth set up,we would have spent our money just on the first team.RFL said they want so many players from youth playing in the first team, and that is why struggled in the league.Well 85% of the players wont get a Superleague contract if we got the nod and we would buy some top players with Ste o connors money.Anyway i have nothing against Wakey and be nice if we where both in Superleague.

I think if they want to drop two out, they could do just to let Toulouse in. After all there is a clause in the RFL operating procedures which says that an overseas club can apply by invitation from the RFL.

As a Halifax fan I know that we will not get a licence, nor do I think we are ready for one, Batley are not going to apply and Barrow.... Well..... least said soonest mended.

I am sorry to say its either you or cas

i enjoy both grounds at present in particular belle vue, I like the atmosphere and the closeness of the pitch

I would miss either team, but if you both dont sort out a new home quickly you will be both out

When the results of the applications are released and we learn which club is being booted out I hope (but won't hold my breath)that the penpushers from red hall make them public so that we can all see how they have done a stitch up to keep crusaders and quins in.

I think its pretty simple.

If the RFL want to let Widnes in either Wakefield or Castleford will go. If they want to let Toulouse in also we both will go.

you have it in a nut shell snadal cat!

Am I missing something here, someone help me out :-

How can the RFL say 1 as to go before they have seen any applications.

Indeed; seems rather unfair. Must be nice to able to write your own rules as you go along.

Cos they are a set of bent gets.

Because they've know for ages who will get licences nest time! Some assumptions may have been made on the way re the fiscal performance/stability of individual clubs in the meantime, but nonetheless, the RFL are clear about the directions they want to go!

Surely setting themselves up for a legal challenge, if the applications from the new applicants are no better than the incumbents they have no standing outside sports law.
The only one that makes sense regards a definite entry is not good news for Widnes either, and that is the change of rules to allow a 'foreign' side in, hello Toulouse.

I think there is a disclaimer that if a club enters an application they throw away the right to contest the outcome.

Or Paris.

Sad state of affairs for RL

Perhaps we should just have Superleague played on a rolling basis:

Next year we announce the teams for 2012, the following year we announce the teams for 2013 etc

Pot 1: Widnes, Toulouse, Barrow, Featherstone, Barrow

Pot 2: All current clubs


1 club drawn from Pot 1 to replace 1 club drawn from Pot 2. Give the incoming club a minimum of 3 seasons but replace a different club every year.
Draw to be made before the start of the season before to allow clubs time to plan.


Sounds ridiculous doesn't it ???? But is it anymore ridiculous than the current system?

I'm late to this discussion but ultimately to me, this is just forced promotion/Relegation.

We used to have the bottom of league and top of lower league swapping places, based purely on results.

No we have a criteria to get into a league which implies that results alone will not relegate you and that the league will have stability
yet now they are saying no matter what you do, if the lower team meets the minimum, someone will have to make way....no matter how good they are.
That's just promotion and relegation on different criteria. If you are bottom of the franchise league you will be relegated, even if you are still better than the team coming up and tick all the boxes.

Innane

Its clear from your bitterness that the RFL have already told you that you wont be invited to the party

Rubbish, they wait while the day before and toss a coin, they are not clear about anything.

Gerraway Sherlock!!!




I can't think of one Fev fan who thinks we'll be part of SL in 2012, if ever at all! However, enjoy next season as I honestly believe it will be your last in SL for a long time, if ever at all!

Bitter - you bet ya! I'm as embittered and as crusty an old git as you'll ever meet on this one owd cock! I didn't think it showed!

Some very good points there especially the bit about Wakey not having an appetite for RL. We have had a few relatively successful seasons in SL but have never built on it. The people of Wakefield are in general apathetic towards Trinity. Hopefully a new stadium will entice them out of their armchairs/out of the pub though I have my doubts I think it will probably just encourage more away fans to come.

I can't be d reading thru all the pages on this topic, sorry if this has already been posted.

How can the RFL league come out and say a team will drop down a league, we have nine months before the april 2011 application deadline!

Whats to say by next april you and cas will be meid way thru your stadium build?

IMO it's shocking, it's pretty obvious the RFL have made there minds up to who will be 14 teams in 2012. so whats the point in the application system.

I hope both you and cas are still playing in super league in 2012, good rugby league towns like cas and wildcats should be in super league.

Maybe the RFL should look at the last time to be granted super league license, in two years they have played at two stadiums, had two names, terrible crowds and full of imports with no youth system.

dont know what your bitter for, has i remember didnt we beat you to get into the top division in 98. you had the same chance has us that night. yes remember we were kicked out with you.

I know a fair amount of people around Wakefield,who used to go every week to watch Trinity,up until the late 90's and stopped due to the stadium and facilities.When I've spoken to them over the years,they've said they would be straight back to watch Trinity if the had a new stadium etc.If there's a few that I personally know of,there must be a fair number of them around Wakefield.Added to that the people that would come to watch simply because it is a new stadium,then the thing would be keeping the people interested in coming back .A new stadium would mean buying better quality players and playing better RL and more exciting games,all of this would increase the fans no end.

Be very carefull calling Wakey a town pal...a few on this board seem to think Wakey as a city gives them divine rights over their small time underachieving town nieghbours entry into the next franchises

Fook this, im not getting caught up in a local war.

Im off