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| Quote ="financialtimes"Yep
But I've made a promise that I wouldn't post my opinion anymore due to ex coaches and other officials of the club not best pleased with me
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Frustrating it happened with my lad, the club concentrated on a cumbrian lad and a few others having just 8 games to play in the season only till at the end when he wasn't offered a contract did they then want to play him so he declined it, anyway
the cumbrian then turned his back on the club and went to Wigan and lasted a few months hard to take when you love the club so much,
he still has the broken bone floating attached to the ligament which messed his career up at the end, we later talked about it and agreed it was probably right anyway
At least your lads in the game and let's hope he develops from there
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| Corey was on wakefield scholarship programme but left for what can only be assumed the money and big name status of wigan where he also couldnt settle hence leeds signed him
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| Think 'Excellent prospect' is pushing it a bit, he's a good young player though and a good signing for wakey imo, he needs to add a bit of weight but he's got a good, tall frame that should carry some added size well. His workrate is very good and he's got a bit of class about him. As already mentioned, he had a good loan at York last season as an 18 yearold.
Usually he'd be a player id want Leeds to keep hold of, but we'r loaded with young centres at the moment, Newman and Broadbent are both 21 and already around the England rep teams and Levi Edwards and Max Simpson are both younger, and seen as better, prospects currently.
Think this moves one of them where its a good move for every party involved.
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Think 'Excellent prospect' is pushing it a bit, he's a good young player though and a good signing for wakey imo, he needs to add a bit of weight but he's got a good, tall frame that should carry some added size well. His workrate is very good and he's got a bit of class about him. As already mentioned, he had a good loan at York last season as an 18 yearold.
Usually he'd be a player id want Leeds to keep hold of, but we'r loaded with young centres at the moment, Newman and Broadbent are both 21 and already around the England rep teams and Levi Edwards and Max Simpson are both younger, and seen as better, prospects currently.
Think this moves one of them where its a good move for every party involved.'"
You just said an excellent prospect is pushing it then you go ahead and describe the very definition of an excellent prospect.
This one sounds more complex than most. As you say he’s got a lot of competition so it makes sense for him and Leeds, no point being overloaded in one position.
Also a touch of the prodigal here. Clearly thought the grass was greener or wanted the money, either way it didn’t pan out.
Probably the correct move for him before he joins that long list of players who just get lost in the system and just fade away. He’s way more chance of getting a game with us at present with a number of back out injured.
Whether we’ve signed another Atkins or Lyne or a total dud only time will tell.
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Think 'Excellent prospect' is pushing it a bit, he's a good young player though and a good signing for wakey imo, he needs to add a bit of weight but he's got a good, tall frame that should carry some added size well. His workrate is very good and he's got a bit of class about him. As already mentioned, he had a good loan at York last season as an 18 yearold.
Usually he'd be a player id want Leeds to keep hold of, but we'r loaded with young centres at the moment, Newman and Broadbent are both 21 and already around the England rep teams and Levi Edwards and Max Simpson are both younger, and seen as better, prospects currently.
Think this moves one of them where its a good move for every party involved.'"
Sounds like an excellent prospect.
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| Quote ="vastman"icon_lol.gif
You just said an excellent prospect is pushing it then you go ahead and describe the very definition of an excellent prospect.
This one sounds more complex than most. As you say he’s got a lot of competition so it makes sense for him and Leeds, no point being overloaded in one position.
Also a touch of the prodigal here. Clearly thought the grass was greener or wanted the money, either way it didn’t pan out.
Probably the correct move for him before he joins that long list of players who just get lost in the system and just fade away. He’s way more chance of getting a game with us at present with a number of back out injured.
Whether we’ve signed another Atkins or Lyne or a total dud only time will tell.'"
Supose it depends what you consider an excellent prospect, if you think 'very good workrate' and 'a bit of class' is the definition of an excellent prospect then we have a different definition of an excellent prospect... he's nowhere near what Harry Newman was at the same age, he was an excellent prospect, Levi Edwards is 18 month younger and already better, he's an excellent prospect...Halls a good player, and a Good prospect...And theres nothing wrong with that. Not too hard to understand really.
Now we'v cleared that up, agreed, definitely a good move for him, theres a superleague player there with him if he gets the chances imo, he was extremely unlikely to get them at Leeds, hopefully he goes on to have a good career with you, fitting as wakey were the ones who gave him his chance with a scholarship, that they benefit if he becomes a first team player.
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| Quote ="imwakefieldtillidie"Sounds like an excellent prospect.'"
If your easily pleased, he's a good prospect.
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"If your easily pleased, he's a good prospect.'"
But it’s your description, sorry but you quite literally described an ‘excellent prospect’.
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| Quote ="vastman"But it’s your description, sorry but you quite literally described an ‘excellent prospect’.'"
Your clutching at straws now mate,
Iv came here to give a balanced view of a player iv seen quite a lot of for anyone interested that might not of seen him, im not interested in club rivalrys when it comes to young players, the more good ones the better at all clubs imo. Iv gave him plenty of praise and the only thing you want to pick up on is the excellent prospect is pushing it part. Fair enough...
Iv overlooked the stupid emojis, took the time and adressed that part in my reply, if what i wrote initially is your definition of an excellent prospect then fair play, for me its not, but there is no wrong or right in someones definition of somthing. I dont think he's an excellent prospect, i dont think what i wrote defines an excellent prospect...If you do, then thats great, im not here to downplay the lad.
Now you come back with this line, which iv literally just adressed in my last post to you, frankly, it seems like your determinded to create a disagreement where there isnt one.
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| Happy to see him back at the club he's done a couple of clubs like Wigan and Leeds and played this last season at York, we usually do well with signings from those north of the river Aire, I think this could be a great signing young British and good pace. That said I still dont get sometimes how we invest and then our own young lads leave, I am no coach so I will leave it to Willie etc his job depends on it, I can se the makings of a cracking young squad coming along here.
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| Excellent prospect or not, the last 19 year old centre we signed from a so called bigger club turned out alright. Looking forward to seeing him play.
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Your clutching at straws now mate,
Iv came here to give a balanced view of a player iv seen quite a lot of for anyone interested that might not of seen him, im not interested in club rivalrys when it comes to young players, the more good ones the better at all clubs imo. Iv gave him plenty of praise and the only thing you want to pick up on is the excellent prospect is pushing it part. Fair enough...
Iv overlooked the stupid emojis, took the time and adressed that part in my reply, if what i wrote initially is your definition of an excellent prospect then fair play, for me its not, but there is no wrong or right in someones definition of somthing. I dont think he's an excellent prospect, i dont think what i wrote defines an excellent prospect...If you do, then thats great, im not here to downplay the lad.
Now you come back with this line, which iv literally just adressed in my last post to you, frankly, it seems like your determinded to create a disagreement where there isnt one.'"
No you are.
Just look at what you wrote.
I know very little about him but your description is that of an excellent prospect. Don’t see your problem.
Why not just laugh it off, I accept you probably didn’t mean to do it, chill out.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"Happy to see him back at the club he's done a couple of clubs like Wigan and Leeds and played this last season at York, we usually do well with signings from those north of the river Aire, I think this could be a great signing young British and good pace. That said I still dont get sometimes how we invest and then our own young lads leave, I am no coach so I will leave it to Willie etc his job depends on it, I can se the makings of a cracking young squad coming along here.'"
This is where you and a few others are making a critical error. I get why a certain father may have an issue but it shouldn’t bother the rest of us.
We run youth teams in the hope that they will produce first teamers but we don’t owe them the chance, I’m sorry but we don’t, it’s just like any other job. The fact that the lad in question supported the club is even less relevant, I support the club but I don’t expect a game.
It doesn’t even matter if the player we let go is any good, all that matters is that his replacement is better. WP will live or die by these decisions.
It’s strange how people bring in emotions and loyalty but it all seems very selective.
How many players who have professed to love the club moved on to bigger clubs at the first opportunity? Loads. I don’t see the clubs loyalty being appreciated all that often either.
Of course I want to see Academy players make it but nowhere near as much as I want to see the first team win things. In that regard I really don’t care how we come across players.
RL is a pro sport and the people running it have to be ruthless on occasions, we can’t please everyone.
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| I have had the nod from someone who knows. It's a good move for the club.
Big step up to SL, but he has the potential to be the real deal.
Ahead of Croft in skills (ATM), and stronger than he looks.
Time will tell, but I trust the judgement of my source implicitly.
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| Quote ="vastman"No you are.
Just look at what you wrote.
I know very little about him but your description is that of an excellent prospect. Don’t see your problem.
Why not just laugh it off, I accept you probably didn’t mean to do it, chill out.'"
Your making a fool of yourself, you've turned what was meant to be a bit of helpful info into a negative. Often happens when someone cant accept not having the last word, they go on and on which results in drivel like this, looking through this board from time to time, i see its a usual occurrence for you.
Lets look at some of a rugby players attributes i didnt mention:
Pace
Agility
Footwork
Strength
Acceleration
Defence
Line Running
Some pretty important attributes for a centre in that list and i didnt mention any of them in my original post, yet you think iv described an 'excellent prospect' due to 'workrate' and 'a bit of class' . I didnt mention what he's not so good at because i wasnt writing in here to be negative about the player and didnt want to come across that way, often when fans of another team post on boards theres a tendency for some to go on the defensive. It seems i hadnt given your good self enough credit.
Like iv said, people can define anything how they choose, and again, if you want to define what i said as an excellent prospect, even though theres a list a mile long of key attributes that i didnt mention, then im ok with that, but i would be left wondering if you know much about the game. Sorry if that seems a touch harsh.
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| Quote ="vastman"This is where you and a few others are making a critical error. I get why a certain father may have an issue but it shouldn’t bother the rest of us.
We run youth teams in the hope that they will produce first teamers but we don’t owe them the chance, I’m sorry but we don’t, it’s just like any other job. The fact that the lad in question supported the club is even less relevant, [uI support the club but I don’t expect a game[/u.
It doesn’t even matter if the player we let go is any good, all that matters is that his replacement is better. WP will live or die by these decisions.
It’s strange how people bring in emotions and loyalty but it all seems very selective.
How many players who have professed to love the club moved on to bigger clubs at the first opportunity? Loads. I don’t see the clubs loyalty being appreciated all that often either.
Of course I want to see Academy players make it but nowhere near as much as I want to see the first team win things. In that regard I really don’t care how we come across players.
RL is a pro sport and the people running it have to be ruthless on occasions, we can’t please everyone.'"
I do, I take mi booits every week just in case!
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Your making a fool of yourself, you've turned what was meant to be a bit of helpful info into a negative. Often happens when someone cant accept not having the last word, they go on and on which results in drivel like this, looking through this board from time to time, i see its a usual occurrence for you.
Lets look at some of a rugby players attributes i didnt mention:
Pace
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Defence
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Some pretty important attributes for a centre in that list and i didnt mention any of them in my original post, yet you think iv described an 'excellent prospect' due to 'workrate' and 'a bit of class' . I didnt mention what he's not so good at because i wasnt writing in here to be negative about the player and didnt want to come across that way, often when fans of another team post on boards theres a tendency for some to go on the defensive. It seems i hadnt given your good self enough credit.
Like iv said, people can define anything how they choose, and again, if you want to define what i said as an excellent prospect, even though theres a list a mile long of key attributes that i didnt mention, then im ok with that, but i would be left wondering if you know much about the game. Sorry if that seems a touch harsh.'"
No love you are. Take your spade and stop digging.
For some reason you’re trying to convince me that the kid isn’t an ‘excellent prospect’ why???? I never said he was, has the penny dropped yet?
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| Just read on the YEP site that we paid a fee for him so we must think highly of him.
Excited to see how this pans out.
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| Quote ="charlie"Just read on the YEP site that we paid a fee for him so we must think highly of him.
Excited to see how this pans out.'"
Wonder if that's the compensation we got for the Catalan centre who gave back word
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| Quote ="vastman"No love you are. Take your spade and stop digging.
For some reason you’re trying to convince me that the kid isn’t an ‘excellent prospect’ why???? I never said he was, has the penny dropped yet?
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Oh dear, love indeed, someone getting agitated?
Neither of us have said he's an excellent prospect and neither of us have described him as one...Penny dropped!
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| If I may be so bold, without wanting to offend. The truth, for want of a better word, is usually somewhere in the middle.
With that in mind I’d say what constitutes an excellent prospect at Leeds is somewhat different to what that looks like at clubs like Wakefield & my own club; Castleford. Neither one of you is right; neither one of you is wrong!
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"If I may be so bold, without wanting to offend. The truth, for want of a better word, is usually somewhere in the middle.
With that in mind I’d say what constitutes an excellent prospect at Leeds is somewhat different to what that looks like at clubs like Wakefield & my own club; Castleford. Neither one of you is right; neither one of you is wrong!'"
Jeez can this thread get more dim witted.
Of course I’m not wrong. How can I be wrong. Read the thread from the start. I’ve not said anything, I know nothing about this player, how difficult is that to understand.
It this weird Leeds fan who seems intent on arguing with himself. So again it’s his opinion on the player that’s up for debate, I DON’T have one.
Come on Steady your normally a bit more sharp than this.
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Oh dear, love indeed, someone getting agitated?
Neither of us have said he's an excellent prospect and neither of us have described him as one...Penny dropped!'"
I never said anything, you did and I wasn’t the only one to note your near perfect description of an ‘exciting prospect’. The penny clearly will never drop. You are clearly thick.
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| Quote ="vastman"I never said anything, you did and I wasn’t the only one to note your near perfect description of an ‘exciting prospect’. The penny clearly will never drop. You are clearly thick.'"
Yep definitely getting agitated and it was 'excellent prospect' not 'exciting' theres a difference.
Im well aware you havnt given an opinion on the player, i havnt once said you have...If thats what your taking from this discussion, then i would question who the thick one is in all honesty.
The issue here is your determined that in my intial post, how i described Corey was, in your words, the definition of an excellent prospect...Now apart from the fact that there isnt a definition of an excellent prospect, that dosnt exist, people will have there own views on what makes an excellent prospect, i took the time to reply saying for me, what i said dosnt describe an excellent prospect, but if it does for you then fair play, i also said that theres no right or wrong in how someone defines something.
At that point it could of been left, but you need to get your point across loudest, you need to have the last word and you dont seem able to accept a different opinion and move on...So here we are, still talking about a well intended post about what i think will be a good signing for your club and a good move for the player himself.
Your getting angry with everybody, resorting to childish name calling and the rest of the board will be well sick of us.
So one last time...I dont think what i initially said about Corey is the description of an excellent prospect imo, but if you do think it describes an excellent prospect, then thats fine, can we agree we just have a different view on how we perceive my initial write up of the lad?
Either way, i think its a good signing for your club.
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