Tongia and Murphy would sort out our full back and three quarter problem out. I agree about the halves, but with a decent stand off I reckon Moore could develop into a quality scrum half. I'm happy with the pack, especially if we do get Kirmond, Raleigh and Dowes, but one big front rower would make me happier. People are saying Ben Cockayne is on his way too, so I'm not too worried about the depth if we do pull these signings off. I just think 2 quality players would round the squad off nicely.

Be interesting to see the signatures that Mr Agar comes back from Aus with - I reckon if he boxes off the above, we're all set.

That's a lot of if's.
As it stands (there's a lot of confirming to do) it's not much better than the squad for this season.

I wouldn't get too excited. I don't think he has gone to Australia with the sole purpose of recruiting player for WTW. I believe it was said when at Hull, he use to travel their to keep upto date with modern coaching styles, techniques and methodology.

So, don't expect him to return with Fort Knox

But then again, he just might.....

I wouldn't expect him to go to Australia and come back with the fort Knox, because it's in the US of A.

Now you're just being picky!

Kyle Amor 3yr deal ish.

have Raleigh and Kirmond been announced yet



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At present the Squad for 2012 I believe is :-

HEAD COACH
Richard Agar

ASSISTANT COACH
Jake Webster

CONDITIONER
Martin Clawson

FULL BACKS
Motu Tony (2012)

WINGERS
Peter Fox (2014)
Dale Morton (2013)
Kevin Penny (2012)

CENTRE
Aaron Murphy (2012)
Dean Collis (2014)
Vince Mellars (2014)
Lucas Walshaw (2014)
Danny Cowling (2012)

HALFBACKS
Gareth Moore (2013)
Matty Wildie (2013)
Adam Kaye (2013)

HOOKER
Andy Ellis (2014)
Tommy Lee (2012)
James Davey (2013)

PROPS
Oliver Wilkes (2013)
Kyle Amor (2012-2014)
Liam Higgins (2012)

SECOND ROW
Steve Southern (2014)
Frankie Moriano (2013)
Ali lauititi (2013)
Paul Johnson (2012)
Russ Spiers (2013)

LOOSE FORWARD
Danny Washbrook (2014)
Kyle Trout (2012)
Sammy Massellot (2012)
Annekin (2013)

UTILITY
Kieran Hyde (2012) FB,W,SO.



RUMOURS
Danny Kirmond - Second Row (Huddersfield)
Isaac John - Stand Off (NZ Warriors)
Ewan Dowes - Prop ( Hull FC)
Ryan Tongia - Full back/Wing ( Wakefield)
Ben Cockayne - Full Back/Wing ( Wakefield)
Andy Raleigh - Second Row/Prop (Huddersfield)
Matt James - prop (Championship)
Bob Beswick - loose (Championship)

Looking at the list there are 2 clear areas to improve, no doubt the 4/5 signings will cover this. HALFS, PROPS.

Halfs - Isaac John alone would improve the halfs and allow Moore, Wildie to battle for the Sh slot. If we were to get Burrows/Smith then we would look very good there. Be happy with John though.

Props - just lack that 1/2 props. Dowes looks nails on for one so that would be a solid signing. Would like to see one more though. Trout could cover If needed.

We look strong particularly at Second Row/ Centres at present. We have good depth at Loose, SR, Centre.

Overall, we look stronger than last year already. A few shrewd signings and we should be poking around the playoffs in 2012. With the investment made, not unrealistic.

Is it me or is everyone building Isaac John up, and nobody has seen him play!!!
I know this is the wakey way, but come on guys what happens if he's another Hickey!!!
Excitement and expectation in moderation please!!!

I'm going by the fact he has been a regular stand off in the vulcans team that reached the grand final. I know it's not NRL but it's still competitive. He also seems to have some fans over there and would have seen more Nrl action had he not had Maloney and players in form ahead of him.

I also don't expect him to come over and score 3 trys a game and set up another 3.

I believe he will be an improvement on the makeshift SO we have had at wakey in 2011.

He will be judged on his performances like all players.

It wasnt a direct criticism, so please dont take it as one, just a general feeling that a la Millard and Hickey, who werent a great success for very differing reasons, this guy is being unfairly talked up, and if he turns out to be average, and lets remember hes a young lad going from toyota cup to senior level (not that there is probably much difference) he may be next years scape goat for no fault other than we have built him up to be something he isnt.
Having said that, and needless to say i hope hes a real star, and rips teams up for us for the next ten years or so, but a modicum of restraint is all i am suggesting, and like you say lets judge him on what he does, (and not what we have led ourselves to believe he will do).

I agree with you. In all honesty none of us will know how he will turn out at Trin till he's on that pitch and showing us. I think most of us fans will give him time to settle.

He's been playing loose forward for the vulcans.

Given today's events, by that time he'll also be a permanent feature in the England squad.

His shirt number is 6. His profiles are halfback. The coments from aus posters are he's a half.

He has played some games at loose for vulcans and also in halfs. His nrl games have been covering Maloney in halfs too.

From what ive seen and read about John he is a Half back but the Vulcans coach uses the loose position as an extra half in a similar way that alot of brit teams use it as an extra prop their coach uses it as an extra Half its an interesting way of playing the game i suppose as there halfs seem to rotate around nearly all 4 positions SO,SH,HK,LF.

Yes I know. Doesn't alter the fact that his has been recently playing loose forward! More a case of pointing out he has some versitiilty and i'm assuming his defence is pretty good for a halfback.

You have missed off Kyle Amor from your list. I was hoping he would sign for us but it seems he likes it across in West Yorkshire lol!

Wonder who we are going to release from the signed list. If the rumours are true and in addition to the famous 5 we have signed Isaac and possibly obst we seem to have a squad in excess of 30 players

Can't really see that

We might not need to release anyone as there could be around 8 players who could go out on dual reg from the list we have on here. People like Hyde, Trout and Masselot could all do with some time out on Dual reg along with Kaye, Annekin and Walshaw.

So now we stand at..

FULL BACK
Motu Tony

WING
Peter Fox
Dale Morton
Kevin Penny

CENTRE
Dean Collis
Vince Mellars
Lucas Walshaw
Danny Cowling

HALFBACKS
Gareth Moore
Matthew Wildie
Liam Kaye

PROPS
Kyle Amor
Oliver Wilkes
Liam Higgins
Andy Raleigh
Kyle Trout

SECOND ROW
Steve Southern
Ali lauititi
Paul Johnson
Frankie Moriano
Danny Kirmond
Russ Spiers

HOOKER
Andrew Ellis
Tommy Lee
James Davey

LOOSE
Danny Washbrook
Sammy Massellot
Stuart Howarth
Annekin

UTILITY BACK
Kieran Hyde

With approximatelly 3 signings to come in.

Don't think ive missed anyone.

IMO we need at least 4 if not 5 more signings - two props, two halfs and a winger (offload penny if we can)