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Quote ="Miro"I do believe them and you should be worried but it aint me saying it.
For example
If Chester says Tom Johnstone is on the transfer list and I report it on here and I believe it it still isn't me saying it.
But the way people quote me it's as if I'm saying it not Chester. Now do you understand?
Now, I ask you again.
Can the deadly virus known as influenza be transmited between people in a crowd, at Bell Vue?
Is itransmition any different to the transmition of your "covid."
Once that is sorted can we discuss the likelehood of rugby returning to Belle Vue with sustainable crowds with the spectre of the deadly influenza lurking in the air. "covid or no "covid."
In Further News.
=#800000Former Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer Dr Mike Yeadon has claimed the Covid-19 pandemic is "fundamentally over" in the UK.
Speaking with talkRADIO's Julia Hartley-Brewer, he said: “We now know that loads of people had prior immunity, there’s an unbelievable amount of data, Whitty and Vallance have ignored it i.e. the government …I believe firmly we are now at community immunity.”
And no, before you start. I'm still not convinced covid is anything more than a strain of flu and I'm not alone. And if there is no hidden agenda, why do the government continue to lie.'"
Promised myself I'd leave you to it on this thread, but I couldn't resist the low-hanging fruit.
For the umpteenth time, influenza and covid-19 are caused by different viruses. They are similar in the way they are transmitted and have some common symptoms, but they are also very different.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/0 ... fferences/
https://www.differencebetween.com/diffe ... influenza/
One of the big differences is the incubation period. It's unlikely you'd have 'flu and not know about it. This means that you probably wouldn't fancy standing out on the Belle Vue Terraces for a couple of hours. Whereas, Sars-COV-2 has many pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic carriers, people who are not at risk from the virus, but could infect others that would be.
On your other claims, they are disputed.
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... s-pan.html
His main point seems to be that a 2nd wave is unlikely for corona viruses, depends how you define a 2nd wave really. Is this a 2nd wave or a re-emergence of the first? did it actually go away and then come back?
False positives are an issue in random testing, but what about hospital admissions? or are they fake? |
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Quote ="Miro"I do believe them and you should be worried but it aint me saying it.
For example
If Chester says Tom Johnstone is on the transfer list and I report it on here and I believe it it still isn't me saying it.
But the way people quote me it's as if I'm saying it not Chester. Now do you understand?
Now, I ask you again.
Can the deadly virus known as influenza be transmited between people in a crowd, at Bell Vue?
Is itransmition any different to the transmition of your "covid."
Once that is sorted can we discuss the likelehood of rugby returning to Belle Vue with sustainable crowds with the spectre of the deadly influenza lurking in the air. "covid or no "covid."
In Further News.
=#800000Former Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer Dr Mike Yeadon has claimed the Covid-19 pandemic is "fundamentally over" in the UK.
Speaking with talkRADIO's Julia Hartley-Brewer, he said: “We now know that loads of people had prior immunity, there’s an unbelievable amount of data, Whitty and Vallance have ignored it i.e. the government …I believe firmly we are now at community immunity.”
And no, before you start. I'm still not convinced covid is anything more than a strain of flu and I'm not alone. And if there is no hidden agenda, why do the government continue to lie.'"
Promised myself I'd leave you to it on this thread, but I couldn't resist the low-hanging fruit.
For the umpteenth time, influenza and covid-19 are caused by different viruses. They are similar in the way they are transmitted and have some common symptoms, but they are also very different.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/0 ... fferences/
https://www.differencebetween.com/diffe ... influenza/
One of the big differences is the incubation period. It's unlikely you'd have 'flu and not know about it. This means that you probably wouldn't fancy standing out on the Belle Vue Terraces for a couple of hours. Whereas, Sars-COV-2 has many pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic carriers, people who are not at risk from the virus, but could infect others that would be.
On your other claims, they are disputed.
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... s-pan.html
His main point seems to be that a 2nd wave is unlikely for corona viruses, depends how you define a 2nd wave really. Is this a 2nd wave or a re-emergence of the first? did it actually go away and then come back?
False positives are an issue in random testing, but what about hospital admissions? or are they fake? | |
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| Quote ="coco the fullback"Promised myself I'd leave you to it on this thread, but I couldn't resist the low-hanging fruit.
For the umpteenth time, influenza and covid-19 are caused by different viruses. They are similar in the way they are transmitted and have some common symptoms, but they are also very different.
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I've come to the conclusion that he is a wind up merchant and he isn't even worth it to reply to
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| Quote ="snowie"I've come to the conclusion that he is a wind up merchant and he isn't even worth it to reply to
let him have his free run I=#800000'd say the majority on here know otherwise'"
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Quote ="coco the fullback"Promised myself I'd leave you to it on this thread, but I couldn't resist the low-hanging fruit.
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For the umpteenth time, influenza and covid-19 are caused by different viruses. They are similar in the way they are transmitted and have some common symptoms, but they are also very different.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/0 ... fferences/
https://www.differencebetween.com/diffe ... influenza/
One of the big differences is the incubation period. It's unlikely you'd have 'flu and not know about it. This means that you probably wouldn't fancy standing out on the Belle Vue Terraces for a couple of hours. Whereas, Sars-COV-2 has many pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic carriers, people who are not at risk from the virus, but could infect others that would be.
On your other claims, they are disputed.
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... s-pan.html
His main point seems to be that a 2nd wave is unlikely for corona viruses, depends how you define a 2nd wave really. Is this a 2nd wave or a re-emergence of the first? did it actually go away and then come back?
False positives are an issue in random testing, but what about hospital admissions? or are they fake?'"
You claim:
=#800000For the umpteenth time, influenza and covid-19 are caused by different viruses. They are similar in the way they are transmitted and have some common symptoms, but they are also very different.
What are the Similarities Between Coronavirus and Influenza?
Here goes from your favorite "low hanging fruit"
Both coronavirus and influenza are single-stranded RNA viruses.
They are enveloped viruses.
They attack the respiratory system of humans.
Both can cause mild to severe diseases including fevers, tiredness, coughing and pneumonia.
Their infections spread through the air and by contact.
The key difference between coronavirus and influenza is that coronavirus is positive-sense single-stranded RNA virus that causes illnesses ranging from common cold and pneumonia to severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and the Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) while influenza virus is a negative-sense single-stranded RNA virus that causes seasonal flu epidemics each year
but the detail Samanthi left out from the above paragraph.
https://www.fastmed.com/health-resource ... pneumonia/
Flu and pneumonia are both respiratory infections. In some cases, the influenza virus overwhelms the immune system and the individual develops influenza pneumonia or they can develop pneumonia from a secondary bacterial infection where the lungs are inflamed making them more susceptible to bacterial invasion.
Both types are ssRNA viruses which are enveloped. Both cause infections in the respiratory system of humans. Influenza infections spread rapidly while coronavirus spreads slowly.
I would imagine anyone on their death bed with complications from either it will be no consolation someone re-assuring you that coronavirus is positive-sense single-stranded RNA virus, while flu is is a negative-sense single-stranded RNA virus.
Lets agree to disagree shall we? After all, what's in a name?
By the way, who is Samanthi ? In your link? |
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Quote ="coco the fullback"Promised myself I'd leave you to it on this thread, but I couldn't resist the low-hanging fruit.
=#400000
For the umpteenth time, influenza and covid-19 are caused by different viruses. They are similar in the way they are transmitted and have some common symptoms, but they are also very different.
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/0 ... fferences/
https://www.differencebetween.com/diffe ... influenza/
One of the big differences is the incubation period. It's unlikely you'd have 'flu and not know about it. This means that you probably wouldn't fancy standing out on the Belle Vue Terraces for a couple of hours. Whereas, Sars-COV-2 has many pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic carriers, people who are not at risk from the virus, but could infect others that would be.
On your other claims, they are disputed.
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... s-pan.html
His main point seems to be that a 2nd wave is unlikely for corona viruses, depends how you define a 2nd wave really. Is this a 2nd wave or a re-emergence of the first? did it actually go away and then come back?
False positives are an issue in random testing, but what about hospital admissions? or are they fake?'"
You claim:
=#800000For the umpteenth time, influenza and covid-19 are caused by different viruses. They are similar in the way they are transmitted and have some common symptoms, but they are also very different.
What are the Similarities Between Coronavirus and Influenza?
Here goes from your favorite "low hanging fruit"
Both coronavirus and influenza are single-stranded RNA viruses.
They are enveloped viruses.
They attack the respiratory system of humans.
Both can cause mild to severe diseases including fevers, tiredness, coughing and pneumonia.
Their infections spread through the air and by contact.
The key difference between coronavirus and influenza is that coronavirus is positive-sense single-stranded RNA virus that causes illnesses ranging from common cold and pneumonia to severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) and the Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) while influenza virus is a negative-sense single-stranded RNA virus that causes seasonal flu epidemics each year
but the detail Samanthi left out from the above paragraph.
https://www.fastmed.com/health-resource ... pneumonia/
Flu and pneumonia are both respiratory infections. In some cases, the influenza virus overwhelms the immune system and the individual develops influenza pneumonia or they can develop pneumonia from a secondary bacterial infection where the lungs are inflamed making them more susceptible to bacterial invasion.
Both types are ssRNA viruses which are enveloped. Both cause infections in the respiratory system of humans. Influenza infections spread rapidly while coronavirus spreads slowly.
I would imagine anyone on their death bed with complications from either it will be no consolation someone re-assuring you that coronavirus is positive-sense single-stranded RNA virus, while flu is is a negative-sense single-stranded RNA virus.
Lets agree to disagree shall we? After all, what's in a name?
By the way, who is Samanthi ? In your link? | |
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As per Coco:
=#800000On your other claims, they are disputed.
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... s-pan.html
His main point seems to be that a 2nd wave is unlikely for corona viruses, depends how you define a 2nd wave really. Is this a 2nd wave or a re-emergence of the first? did it actually go away and then come back?'"
Yes I looked at your link Coco,
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... s-pan.html
So, now Former Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer Dr Mike Yeadon is also a spreader of fake news, sorry, hoaxer?
I mean, who can you trust nowadays, the present Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer ?
Then I came to this:
=#800000These predictions, or statements, are untrue, according to scientists and medical experts already bracing for a second wave. Lead Stories reached out to Johns Hopkins University coronavirus experts
A Bill Gates funded university. Someone set to make billions from the vaccine. I mean, hardly likely to endorse the former head of Pfzer are they?
Do you have any evidence disputing Former Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer Dr Mike Yeadon from an organization that does not have a conflict of interest? |
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As per Coco:
=#800000On your other claims, they are disputed.
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... s-pan.html
His main point seems to be that a 2nd wave is unlikely for corona viruses, depends how you define a 2nd wave really. Is this a 2nd wave or a re-emergence of the first? did it actually go away and then come back?'"
Yes I looked at your link Coco,
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... s-pan.html
So, now Former Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer Dr Mike Yeadon is also a spreader of fake news, sorry, hoaxer?
I mean, who can you trust nowadays, the present Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer ?
Then I came to this:
=#800000These predictions, or statements, are untrue, according to scientists and medical experts already bracing for a second wave. Lead Stories reached out to Johns Hopkins University coronavirus experts
A Bill Gates funded university. Someone set to make billions from the vaccine. I mean, hardly likely to endorse the former head of Pfzer are they?
Do you have any evidence disputing Former Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer Dr Mike Yeadon from an organization that does not have a conflict of interest? | |
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Wonder if the vaccine that seems to be on the horizon is a preventative vaccine or, the first step in mass control of the population ?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Wonder if the vaccine that seems to be on the horizon is a preventative vaccine or, the first step in mass control of the population ?'"
Good question wrencat.  I suppose it depends what, if any, restrictions they put on anyone not taking the vaccine.
As a precursor the muzzles are already a control mechanism, or they would like them to be. See the sign on the front of Aviva buses as a glaring example.
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I’ve no problem with people choosing not to get the vaccine. It will almost certainly ensure they won’t be going on holiday abroad again though. Or indeed working abroad.
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| Quote ="Billy Butcher"I’ve no problem with people choosing not to get the vaccine. It will almost certainly ensure they won’t be going on holiday abroad again though. Or indeed working abroad.'"
But will it stop at "covid" related issues. Be careful what you wish for. Before you give our politicians this power I would certainly think it through very very carefully.
The politicians we have now are bad enough, but there is no telling what kind of people will be in power in the years to come. | | |
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Politicians already have the power to stop you entering their country without the necessary jabs.
This is nothing new.
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| Quote ="Billy Butcher"Politicians already have the power to stop you entering their country without the necessary jabs.
This is nothing new.'"
Wrencat was asking about "mass control of the population", you were talking about traveling abroad. My apologies. | | | |
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| Quote ="Billy Butcher"I’ve no problem with people choosing not to get the vaccine. It will almost certainly ensure they won’t be going on holiday abroad again though. Or indeed working abroad.'"
Why?
For a start, there will be some that will be allergic to the vaccine - like they are to the flu jab for example - and wont be able to have it. | | |
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| Quote ="Miro"Good question wrencat.
I suppose it depends what, if any, restrictions they put on anyone not taking the vaccine.
As a precursor the muzzles are already a control mechanism, or they would like them to be. See the sign on the front of Aviva buses as a glaring example.
By the way, looks like you have Billy B as a groupie,'"
The "muzzles" as you so eloquently describe them are to try and help prevent the spread of the virus, not to control the population.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Just for the record, there is no immunity from seasonal or any other flu.
Hence, why there's a vaccine and people unfortunately still die from it. That's why there are monthly/yearly figures regarding it's outbreak and mortality rate.'"
That is just an absolute lie, there has been an immunity to 'covid' or rather corona viruses and this is coming from the mouths of those who actually back the criminals in UK government.Millions of people don't get flu despite not having vaccines, and we know that vaccines for influenza are pretty much ineffective anyway, even the NHS website has to admit how rubbish they are despite defending them so much and ignoring the huge amount of harm vaccines do in many instances!
You people are anti science ffs!
People die due to their underlying health conditions for the most part, government and aided by ONS have manipulated deaths to show that SARS-COV-2 is a huge killer, when it isn't in anywhere near the numbers given. There's already evidence that tells us that immunity in people was already there!
"Most bizarrely of all, when researchers tested blood samples taken years before the pandemic started, they found T cells which were specifically tailored to detect proteins on the surface of Covid-19. This suggests that some people already had a pre-existing degree of resistance against the virus before it ever infected a human. And it appears to be surprisingly prevalent: 40-60% of unexposed individuals had these cells." | | |
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"That is just an absolute lie, there has been an immunity to 'covid' or rather corona viruses and this is coming from the mouths of those who actually back the criminals in UK government.=#FF0000Millions of people don't get flu despite not having vaccines, and we know that vaccines for influenza are pretty much ineffective anyway, even the NHS website has to admit how rubbish they are despite defending them so much and ignoring the huge amount of harm vaccines do in many instances!
You people are anti science ffs!
People die due to their underlying health conditions for the most part, government and aided by ONS have manipulated deaths to show that SARS-COV-2 is a huge killer, when it isn't in anywhere near the numbers given. There's already evidence that tells us that immunity in people was already there!
"Most bizarrely of all, when researchers tested blood samples taken years before the pandemic started, they found T cells which were specifically tailored to detect proteins on the surface of Covid-19. This suggests that some people already had a pre-existing degree of resistance against the virus before it ever infected a human. And it appears to be surprisingly prevalent: 40-60% of unexposed individuals had these cells."'"
How can it be a lie when you have stated that???
People die from flu if they've had the flu jab or not - and not just those with "pre existing medical conditions." | | |
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"The "muzzles" as you so eloquently describe them are to try and help prevent the spread of the virus, not to control the population.
Who are "they" ?'" If you cannot travel on a bus because of no mask then you are controled, your freedom of movement is under control.
I have observed in close up and at a distance the wearing of these filthy (after just ten minutes) masks and from what I see there is no way in this world they are controling the spread of a virus. Quite the opposite in fact. Just to see how people handle the things and handle everything else afterwards, and we are talking multi millions of them, people and masks, it's a joke to say they are helping in any way and it is time the government dropped the insistance of mask wearing anywhere.
But they won't, because like social distancing, this is simply a way to measure your obedience and complience.
If the Masks work - Why the six feet? If the Six Feet works – Why the Masks? If Both work – Why the Lockdown?
To have a mask full of bacteria, germs, viruses, spit, snot, stale expelled air from the lungs all this you breath back into the lungs there should have been a risk assement done not just for the wearing but the constant touching (yes you Mr Chester) the number of masks required per person per day, the safe disposal of millions of them.
I have not seen a risk assesement nor any way of safley disposing of them.
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| Quote ="48756c6c20 524c4643"That is just an absolute lie, there has been an immunity to 'covid' or rather corona viruses and this is coming from the mouths of those who actually back the criminals in UK government.Millions of people don't get flu despite not having vaccines, and we know that vaccines for influenza are pretty much ineffective anyway, even the NHS website has to admit how rubbish they are despite defending them so much and ignoring the huge amount of harm vaccines do in many instances!
You people are anti science ffs!
People die due to their underlying health conditions for the most part, government and aided by ONS have manipulated deaths to show that SARS-COV-2 is a huge killer, when it isn't in anywhere near the numbers given. There's already evidence that tells us that immunity in people was already there!
"Most bizarrely of all, when researchers tested blood samples taken years before the pandemic started, they found T cells which were specifically tailored to detect proteins on the surface of Covid-19. This suggests that some people already had a pre-existing degree of resistance against the virus before it ever infected a human. And it appears to be surprisingly prevalent: 40-60% of unexposed individuals had these cells."'"
Just quoting random numbers with no evidence or personal qualifications as an expert is just blah, no matter how viamently you write it. | | |
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| Quote ="Miro"If you cannot travel on a bus because of no mask then you are controled, your freedom of movement is under control.
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Correct
Same as.....
You can't drive without a seat belt
You can't ride a bike without a helmet
You can't drive over the speed limit
You can't drive while drunk or drugged
You can't ride a train without booking a ticket
I'm pretty sure you can't travel naked either but not sure about that one
How dare they control us in this way! Pretending to do it for our safety when they just want to restrict our movemt. | | |
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Non of those measures are inhuman. Life devoid of facial expresions is inhuman and if anyone cannot see that then I fear they are bordering on the sociopathic.
We need to see smiles, frowns, anger, sadness, laughter and the rest. What is it they say? A smile is worth a thousand words (or maybe I just made that up) or "smile, and the whole world smiles with you." Or is that laugh? same thing
Yes, it may only be a limited amount of places (at the moment) but that's bad enough and so many people now so scared thanks to the media, that they wear them everywhere.
Soppy stuff maybe but that's humanity in a nutshell.
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Trouble is, I’m sure I’ve seen it reported that flu deaths are now to be reported as COVID deaths. Therefore, people will never die from the flu virus again. Now, if a COVID vaccine is effective, and COVID virus is eradicated, what the hell are people going to die from in the winter months?
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A virus that has a recovery rate between 94% and 99.97% (depending on age) and most of it's cases are asymptomatic*...It Would be easy to make a vaccine with 90% effectiveness because your immune system is already 90% resistant to CV19... So, that means I can mix some water and sugar at home and i just made a vaccine 90% effective against CV19... So, the real question is, what's in the 10% of the vaccine that's not effective against CV19
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The vaccine is 90% effective for a virus that 99% recover from lol. The immune system beats the vaccine, as usual. 
Disclaimer, I am not an anti-vaccer, but I will be anti this one. | | |
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Quote ="Miro"Here's a thought.
A virus that has a recovery rate between 94% and 99.97% (depending on age) and most of it's cases are asymptomatic*...It Would be easy to make a vaccine with 90% effectiveness because your immune system is already 90% resistant to CV19... So, that means I can mix some water and sugar at home and i just made a vaccine 90% effective against CV19... So, the real question is, what's in the 10% of the vaccine that's not effective against CV19
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The vaccine is 90% effective for a virus that 99% recover from lol. The immune system beats the vaccine, as usual.
Disclaimer, I am not an anti-vaccer, but I will be anti this one.'"
The full results are not published yet, but the 90% refers to the 43,000 people who took part in the trial, 94 infections have been detected to far and over 90% of those are in the placebo group. The trial is ongoing and needs a total of 164 infections before the data are valid.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart ... e-ongoing/ |
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Quote ="Miro"Here's a thought.
A virus that has a recovery rate between 94% and 99.97% (depending on age) and most of it's cases are asymptomatic*...It Would be easy to make a vaccine with 90% effectiveness because your immune system is already 90% resistant to CV19... So, that means I can mix some water and sugar at home and i just made a vaccine 90% effective against CV19... So, the real question is, what's in the 10% of the vaccine that's not effective against CV19
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The vaccine is 90% effective for a virus that 99% recover from lol. The immune system beats the vaccine, as usual.
Disclaimer, I am not an anti-vaccer, but I will be anti this one.'"
The full results are not published yet, but the 90% refers to the 43,000 people who took part in the trial, 94 infections have been detected to far and over 90% of those are in the placebo group. The trial is ongoing and needs a total of 164 infections before the data are valid.
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Quote ="coco the fullback"The full results are not published yet, but the 90% refers to the 43,000 people who took part in the trial, 94 infections have been detected to far and over 90% of those are in the placebo group. The trial is ongoing and needs a total of 164 infections before the data are valid.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart ... e-ongoing/'"
Really? Then what does this mean? From your link. No mention of the 43,000
“with early data from their promising vaccine candidate showing that it could be 90% effective at preventing the disease with no serious safety concerns observed. “ with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration signalling that it would accept a Covid-19 vaccine effective in only half of those vaccinated.
The positive results mean the companies are likely on track to meet their mid-November goal of filing for emergency regulatory approval in the U.S.,
I can't see anywhere in that article where it points to the 90% infections only in the placebo group.
I believe the November vaccine (yet to be peer reviewed) cannot be considered safe due to no data at all for the long term affects the vaccine may have on the human immune system. see below.
As quoted by the CDC “These stages are mandated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), with its for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER) division officially in charge of regulating vaccines. It’s not unusual for a vaccine to take 10 to 15 years to complete all the phases under normal circumstances.
Yet this vaccine is being rushed through in a matter of months, not even a year.
Considering A virus that has a recovery rate between 94% and 99.97% (depending on age) and most of it's cases are asymptomatic why the rush for a vaccine?
Furthermore, a rushed vaccine that isn’t properly tested could ultimately prove to be just as dangerous as the virus.
That's according to:
https://www.reference.com/science/how-l ... op-vaccine |
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Quote ="coco the fullback"The full results are not published yet, but the 90% refers to the 43,000 people who took part in the trial, 94 infections have been detected to far and over 90% of those are in the placebo group. The trial is ongoing and needs a total of 164 infections before the data are valid.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart ... e-ongoing/'"
Really? Then what does this mean? From your link. No mention of the 43,000
“with early data from their promising vaccine candidate showing that it could be 90% effective at preventing the disease with no serious safety concerns observed. “ with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration signalling that it would accept a Covid-19 vaccine effective in only half of those vaccinated.
The positive results mean the companies are likely on track to meet their mid-November goal of filing for emergency regulatory approval in the U.S.,
I can't see anywhere in that article where it points to the 90% infections only in the placebo group.
I believe the November vaccine (yet to be peer reviewed) cannot be considered safe due to no data at all for the long term affects the vaccine may have on the human immune system. see below.
As quoted by the CDC “These stages are mandated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), with its for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER) division officially in charge of regulating vaccines. It’s not unusual for a vaccine to take 10 to 15 years to complete all the phases under normal circumstances.
Yet this vaccine is being rushed through in a matter of months, not even a year.
Considering A virus that has a recovery rate between 94% and 99.97% (depending on age) and most of it's cases are asymptomatic why the rush for a vaccine?
Furthermore, a rushed vaccine that isn’t properly tested could ultimately prove to be just as dangerous as the virus.
That's according to:
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Yes I looked at your link Coco,
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... s-pan.html
So, now Former Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer Dr Mike Yeadon is also a spreader of fake news, sorry, hoaxer?
I mean, who can you trust nowadays, the present Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer ?
Then I came to this:
=#800000These predictions, or statements, are untrue, according to scientists and medical experts already bracing for a second wave. Lead Stories reached out to Johns Hopkins University coronavirus experts
A Bill Gates funded university. Someone set to make billions from the vaccine. I mean, hardly likely to endorse the former head of Pfzer are they?
Do you have any evidence disputing Former Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer Dr Mike Yeadon from an organization that does not have a conflict of interest?'"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 50133.html
I don't know why I'm doing this. You quoted the claim, you provide the evidence it's true. It's not my job to prove your spurious assertions to be false.
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Yes I looked at your link Coco,
https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020 ... s-pan.html
So, now Former Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer Dr Mike Yeadon is also a spreader of fake news, sorry, hoaxer?
I mean, who can you trust nowadays, the present Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer ?
Then I came to this:
=#800000These predictions, or statements, are untrue, according to scientists and medical experts already bracing for a second wave. Lead Stories reached out to Johns Hopkins University coronavirus experts
A Bill Gates funded university. Someone set to make billions from the vaccine. I mean, hardly likely to endorse the former head of Pfzer are they?
Do you have any evidence disputing Former Chief Scientific Advisor with Pfizer Dr Mike Yeadon from an organization that does not have a conflict of interest?'"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 50133.html
I don't know why I'm doing this. You quoted the claim, you provide the evidence it's true. It's not my job to prove your spurious assertions to be false.
Have you provided any evidence about false positives? | |
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I suppose it depends what, if any, restrictions they put on anyone not taking the vaccine.
I know Mink flu.'"
