Agree, even when half fit last season he had a good solid year and when he did miss games we certainly felt his loss.

He's very good defensively and you never hardly see him shoot out of the line, a really smooth runner who's deceptively quick and can beat people off either foot and he's always looking to make the overlap to put the winger in, which a lot of forget to do nowadays.

Look harder then.

Yeah, he's down as "solid" in my book, but hopefully i've just missed it!

I really rate Collis, would have loved to have seen him playing before his knee op, players are never the same after that. Still solid in the centres.

Reckon the best we can hope for is 8th place, are main goal has to be to finish above the likes of Cas and London. Honestly think we'll miss Ellis he was a key part of our run at the end of last year.

i agree i think we miss ellis too i think we played alot faster from play ball with him at hooker but n mind hope he does well for fev sure he will, and for me a fully fit collis will be player to watch as he is class even on one leg you could see little bits in his play to suggest this, well i for one hope he rips it up this season

What about 2014? Rob Burrow is OOC at the end of this season,he had his testimonial last year .Now Danny mags has just signed up till end of 2015,these two usually signup together.Maybe Rob is going for a last beg deal before he finishes,like Gaz Ellis did

Wigan
Wire
Huddersfield
Sts
Hull
Leeds
Catalan
Wakefield


thats my bet this season

Huddersfield?

League positions only:

Saints
Wire
Leeds
Gap
Wigan
Hull
Gap
Catalans
Huddersfield
Wakey (injuries permitting)
Bradford
Hull KR
Gap
London
Castleford
Gap
Widnes
Gap
Salford

The law of averages is a lay term used to express a belief that outcomes of a random event will "even out" within a small sample.
As invoked in everyday life, the "law" usually reflects bad statistics or wishful thinking rather than any mathematical principle. While there is a real theorem that a random variable will reflect its underlying probability over a very large sample, the law of averages typically assumes that unnatural short-term "balance" must occur!

So basically it is a myth and cannot be relied upon. This may be a slight (massive) bias on my part but if Rovers finish below Wakefield, I'll be embarrassed.

So you think it could be the GAP super league then Phil?

you started well and ended rather badly, just like Rovers last season

Admittedly, the end to last season was absolutely unacceptable, on the other hand, Wakefield's end to last season was freakish and I'd stick my neck out and say it won't happen again. Yes I am being biased and i think fans of all clubs over estimate their own respective chances. We shall see how it all pans out over the next few months and all the best to yourselves! At least you still have a club to support which is the main thing!

I'm with you on that, we rolled with our good luck.

But we put ourselves in with a shout due to some very decent late season form, maybe we won't have to leave it so late this year.


Who knows how this coming season will pan out.

Ignoring the last paragraph, that's the post of the week; I love the smell of pedantry in the morning!

The end to this season may not be as good as last season, but based on the fact that the team had never played together last season but have now had a good season together then the 1st half should not be as bad as last season so in theory we should pick up points in the 1st half of the season that we may lose in the second half.
On the basis that we had a completely new team last season and looking at the performances that we had in the 2nd half of the season against some pretty good teams I will hazard a guess that however they feel they might have strengthened, none of the teams that finished below us last season will improve enough to finish above us this season, and I would include Bradford in that before anyone says that we only finished above them because of a points deduction.

Embarrassed to finish below Wakey? I think thats a little direspectful considering we won 3 more games than you last year, beat you in your own back yard in a pressure game and gave you a damn good game at the start of the season when we were a brand new team.

I doubt we will make the top 8 this season but I'd still think you should be prepared to be embarrassed



watch out for Widnes this season

They may be playing half the season one man short now they've got Hock, he won't be getting away with the things he got away with at Wigan now he's there

Of course there's always the possibility of outliers

Agree, I could accept one of the top 5 sides fans saying that but not a bloody HKR one, especially as they're nowhere near good enough for one of their fans to be coming out with crap like that. Like you say they finished behind us last season and we were a brand new team which took half a season to gel and I also reckon that one team has got stronger (Trinity) this year and the others got a bit weaker imo.

Are you a college student? lots of mine used to copy and paste from Wikipedia without knowing what it meant also

Thanks for pointing out my error lammtarra95

Like a man in orthopedic shoes ... i stand corrected

(please note I have used a lower case "i" to gauge whether you have wider issues or simply object to my use of a "faux law" in the wrong context).. I would have hope the majority of forum members would have understood where I was coming from

Aside from this .... I fully expect Wakefield to finish above Rovers in 2013 so will look forward to revelling in your embarrassment....

Thanks

Yes! Indeed it is copied and pasted from Wikipedia but that was only because it was the quickest and easiest way to explain my point! I'm fully aware of how the law of averages is absolute twaddle! From my days in the bookmaking industry, it's one of my most hated phrases along with "all trainers are bent"

I withdraw my previous post - you could have at least had the good grace to mix the words up a bit!