one trick horse?

What's last years excuse then? Grix?

I bet broughy and Drew carnt wait to renew their 'friendship'....

The club have seen DB as a priority signing since the end of last season. Talks have been going on for ages and there is no doubt the financial mess he got into had a significant effect on the negotiations. From what I hear everytime we had talks we seemed to meet a new obstacle. We would go away,work around it and then something else would be put in the way.

Now bearing in mind what happened with Griffin a few years ago and how he was turned, I do wonder how much crap shudds have put inside DB's head and how they may have exploited his financial problems to their ends. The truth will never come out but there is no doubt they have been chipping away behind the scenes for quite sometime

Give Southerwood his chance and move on (i.e put a significant offer in for Finch)

Talking of Drew I wonder if the players we get from Hudds will manage to play against them something Drew never did.

BJ to scrum half would be a bad move.

TBH I dont think Scrum Half and Stand off are not all that different, just one feeds it into the Scrum and the other doesnt. IF Brough is going i'm sure Cooke can direct the team around the field.

That's assuming Cooke is coming. Wouldn't want BJ directing things. Still wont believe any of it till it happens Kear was nailed on for the England job a week ago!

Things have happened please move on!

how's that then? last i knew there was just yet another thread saying he's going with absolutely no proof. he might leave he might not, we'll see won't we. if he does go and cooke does come then i hope it's not as a direct replacement we will need another scrum half imo

What things have happened?

Again, assuming he does go and Cooke comes in - what, other than the number on their back, is the difference between a stand off and a scrum half? As long as 1 of them is a runner (BJ) and one of them is an organiser and distributor (Cooke) what difference does it make who feeds the scrum?

I would say Cooke could be just what we need, not the biggest fan of Brough - I think the negatives to a long way to cancelling out the positives, although Cooke is clearly not without issues. He knows how to control a game and organise a side (when he wants to of course) - look at Friday, how many times did we have 2 non ball playing forwards between where the ball is and the 3/4's when attacking in the second half? Why did we leave it so late in the tackle count for the drop goal we had to miss out the under pressure Brough and give it to Matty Blaymire? We need somebody to direct us round the park, and Cooke could just fit the bill in my opinion.

cooke for me should play at 13, i prefer the halfs to be more mobile than he is, hence needing another scrum half. I dont doubt Cooke could bring a lot to the table if his head is right

I disagree. Cooke is a pure organiser/distributer. He has not got the running capabilities to play 13 imo. To play him at 13 would give us too many playmakers on the field at once which has not worked well for us in the past. Plus with DB potentially going would see him play 6.

I can except from a business point of view that it would be in our best interests to let Brough go now. But what I would find hard is if he went and we banked his transfer fee/salary and nobody replaced him. Cooke doesn't count as he is a replacement for Newton. Now if the rumors about Kirmond and Aspinwall are true I would think that would be a bit of good business. Rugby League is above all else a team sport, no one individual is that important not even Danny. We have enough game winners to win enough games to make the play offs. With Kirmond and Aspinwall we would have a really solid sqaud. Let hope we do see something out of this deal not just money down the black hole!

Sorry guys - I am struggling to see how there can be any positive to DB leaving Trinity.

Sam Obst isn't DB and doesn't have the same quality or qualities... Obst was great on Friday but hasn't been as consistent this year as he would have liked/should have been... in fact he's had some pretty average performances this season (saints in particular).. some on here are very quick to forget this and he is now the best thing since sliced brown bread....

If we genuinely want to break in to the next bracket and challenge the bigger clubs we need players like DB at our club - THE BOY IS TOP CLASS. Albeit if the lads circumstances mean he has to leave ... so be it. Its a shame he is in a situation like he is (should it be true).

Isn't kirmond out with a bad knee injury?

Agree with Crigg Cat though obst apart from friday has been dissapointing this season, however it seems all has been forgiven by most after putting in 1 decent performance, brough's out of the top drawer, and we need him to push onto the next level, talking of Finch, did anyone really notice him vs leeds. ?

Can anyone tell me where the official announcement is that Brough has left?

Come on, you know the rules, anyone who leaves under a cloud is immediately the worst player of all time (Sculthorpe, Griffin...), whereas those who leave at the end of a contract or similar (Grix....) then it's the club's fault for not keeping these World Class future legends on our books!

well the moderation team accepts no responsibility for players leaving.

maybe you forget the players in the willie poaching mould who just get a big slap on the back and gratitude , i guess its how you do it.

Gaz Elliss? don't remember anyone bagging him.

think theres a difference here mate, these rumours are not being denied by those in the know on here, and I dont see how it helps us this season, sure we knew DB would go but when his contract was up, Hes not just any player hes one of the top 3 in the most pivitol position in SL, nothing we have or will get this year will replace him, so for me we have lowered our aspirations after 6 games and placed one our rivals in a stronger position. we have nothing or will get nothing that is as good or better, a least in the short term.
As an accountant I can see the business sense in any deal, but as a fan I cant see anything we gain that will make me look forward to next weekend.

i remember gaz ellis saying he was gonna let those people sort out his future whilst he concentrated on the GB squad . Once bradford/Leeds started to fight it out it was inevitable he was off . Never bagged our club when left and like many wakey fans would love to see gaz finish back at wakefield.

Sculthorpe ran off to daddy crying , got a kind of feeling that brough will slag us off he slaged us off to york laughed about york to hull slagged hull off to cas told cas he hated us and wanted to play for them whilst telling us he hated cas .....ect ect ....

Contracts may be demanded but respect is a commodity that can not be demanded but acquired as a mutual consent

If DB has gone good luck to him, except when he plays against us. I don't think there is any panic about him leaving. Better players than him have left the club in the past 6 or 7 years and the club has continued on an upward curve. If we get a fee and or players for him it will represent excellent business. Don't forget when he signed for us he was unproven at Super League level - if we move him on for a fee or player exchange then we are in profit. If we wait till the end of the season he goes for nothing.

Another point. This time last year I think we were also 4 from 6 - but unless Im mistaken DB had not played a single one of those 6 games.

As for Obst I think he has performed really well over the past season or so on the few occasions he has started at 6. I think the guy suffers a little because of his versatility between 6, 7 and 9. As a 6 he has done a good job I think.

Come off it. I don't care what he does with his cash but to suggest a relatively poorly supported and funded club like Huds can afford the players they do without being massively subsidised is utter poppycock!

As I say it's a free country and Mr Davey can spend his money as he sees fit, Idon't resent that but at least be honest and don't insult our collective intelligences by pretending he doesn't splash the cash in a big way - he does!