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| It was noted on the radio about the strength of the Wakey bench.
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| Not the greatest of matches, but Ian Smith didn't do the fans any favours with some of his decisions - a blatant knock on by Quins towards the end of the first half went unnoticed (meaning that instead of putting pressure on their line at the end of the half we had to keep them out for the last minute or so of the half) and I've absolutely no idea what sort of knock on DB was alleged to have made when he intercepted late on - I can't see that the fight would have happened if he hadn't called for the knock on.
Too much laying on at the tackles - I lost count of how many times Morrison was shaking his head in disbelief that Smith wasn't blowing flor a penalty.
Our defence needs working on. The last couple of years I think we've had a great goalline defence, but both Quins' tries - especially the first - were soft ones to be conceding at this level.
The fact there was only 3 props in the 17 was a massive weakness and for most of the second half we only had 1 prop on at a time! All 3 of them did play well, but we do need 2 props on the bench for every game.
Newton didn't look fit from the moment he came on. Obviously he picked up a knock in the 10 minutes or so that he was on the pitch, but he was blowing like he'd made every carry & every tackle during the course of a full 80 minutes after only being on there for 1 or 2.
JD's lack of match fitness was obvious - he did ok, but he never really looked like he was with the pace of the game. Hendo put in his typical performance (i.e. no passes) but we all know that's how he plays.
With the benefit of hindsight, I'd have preferred to see King & Johnson in the 17 for Newton & JD - BJ should have started at 6 with Sam & TLL interchanging at hooker. I don't think Newton & JD were anywhere near full fitness, so if King & Johnson were left out because they were considered to be even further off match fitness it does make me wonder how unfit the rest of the squad outside the 19 must be right now!
Murphy was fantastic at full back & the way he took the ball from just in front of our own sticks to attack the gaps in the Quins kick-chase that created the try for BJ in the first half showed that Matt Blaymire has an awful lot of work to do if he wants his place back in the side. IMO if Blaymire had been at full back he'd have run straight into the nearest tackler rather than attacking the gap.
Overall, plenty of reasons to give us optimism for the season - but plenty that not only can, but must, be improved on for the rest of the season. If we do improve on what are minor, but fundamental, issues theres no reason why we shouldn't expect to be a serious challenge in both the league & cup this season.
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| Wakey deserved the win. The score reflects the game. Thought Jefferies went well, Broughy was quiet. See you at your place - Good luck for the rest of the season.
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| I haven't seen the game but it's great to hear positive reports regarding Aaron Murphy, hopefully he will have an injury free season and kick on from here.
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| Quote ="RDM"Not the greatest of matches, but Ian Smith didn't do the fans any favours with some of his decisions - a blatant knock on by Quins towards the end of the first half went unnoticed (meaning that instead of putting pressure on their line at the end of the half we had to keep them out for the last minute or so of the half) and I've absolutely no idea what sort of knock on DB was alleged to have made when he intercepted late on - I can't see that the fight would have happened if he hadn't called for the knock on.
Too much laying on at the tackles - I lost count of how many times Morrison was shaking his head in disbelief that Smith wasn't blowing flor a penalty.
Our defence needs working on. The last couple of years I think we've had a great goalline defence, but both Quins' tries - especially the first - were soft ones to be conceding at this level.
The fact there was only 3 props in the 17 was a massive weakness and for most of the second half we only had 1 prop on at a time! All 3 of them did play well, but we do need 2 props on the bench for every game.
Newton didn't look fit from the moment he came on. Obviously he picked up a knock in the 10 minutes or so that he was on the pitch, but he was blowing like he'd made every carry & every tackle during the course of a full 80 minutes after only being on there for 1 or 2.
JD's lack of match fitness was obvious - he did ok, but he never really looked like he was with the pace of the game. Hendo put in his typical performance (i.e. no passes) but we all know that's how he plays.
With the benefit of hindsight, I'd have preferred to see King & Johnson in the 17 for Newton & JD - BJ should have started at 6 with Sam & TLL interchanging at hooker. I don't think Newton & JD were anywhere near full fitness, so if King & Johnson were left out because they were considered to be even further off match fitness it does make me wonder how unfit the rest of the squad outside the 19 must be right now!
Murphy was fantastic at full back & the way he took the ball from just in front of our own sticks to attack the gaps in the Quins kick-chase that created the try for BJ in the first half showed that Matt Blaymire has an awful lot of work to do if he wants his place back in the side. IMO if Blaymire had been at full back he'd have run straight into the nearest tackler rather than attacking the gap.
Overall, plenty of reasons to give us optimism for the season - but plenty that not only can, but must, be improved on for the rest of the season. If we do improve on what are minor, but fundamental, issues theres no reason why we shouldn't expect to be a serious challenge in both the league & cup this season.'"
first 10/15 we absolutely dominated field position but our attacking line was very poor. on their first attack quins showed how to run angles and we completely misread the play for their try - disappointing. for the rest of the half both teams were error strewn and as a spectacle it was very stop start.
2nd half was totally different, despite letting them make too much ground and conceding a very soft try we looked like we could score every time we got in their 20, especially down our left flank.
agree about the props, we cannot afford to go in so light against catalans or we will get mullered after the interchanges. king or bibb need to get up to speed quickly we cant manage with 3 for long. someone has mentioned henderson propping but i cant remember a time when 2 of the 3 weren't on the field, although i stand to be corrected.
newton did look knackered but he showed glimpses of what he is capable of before his injury. BJ was genuinely woeful for the first 5 minutes but in the 2nd half he played very well, hopefully a sign of what's to follow.
murphy was probably the best player on the pitch and his try was just reward for all our pressure and his personal display.
tronc was a handful and 2 offloads in his first 4 carries was very positive. he seemed to on the pitch a for long periods i hope we dont reduce his efffectiveness by keeping him on too long.
even though it worked out for the best in the end kear needs to stick to 2 half backs and 2 hookers imo, bite the bullet and drop someone. we dont need all five in the team its too many. obst had a bit of a shocker today all told although it would be harsh if he was the one to make way considering.
george was anonymous in the first half but in the second showed enough to make me feel confident he can carry on where he left off last season, hopefully millard will give him more supply than atkins did.
hendo got stuck in and whilst i'm not gonna wet myself over him like some do he deserves a lot of credit for his performance today. despite not passing the ball once he was full of strong running and got in their faces.
morton - well pleased with his contribution he looks to be improving with every game. as has been said made a couple of crunching tackles at least one leading to the ball being spilled.
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| Not the best game in terms of quality but enough signs to smile about and two points from the first game is good.
Agree with above about the short of props/two many playmakers - thought murphy was outstanding and good performances from morton/bj and tronc
Great atmosphere from the Trin fans and really pleased to see how many packed in that stand, loved the banging the feet on the metal floor to create some real noise although my daughter was concerned we were going to bring the stand down!!
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| Lady next to me complained every time people banged the old feet, it helped keep us all warm at least.
Trin fans at away games are a good bunch.
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| Why why why did we run 5 kickable penalties.
Its just not rocket science --- always take the two.
All in all two league points is what we needed : job done
The coaching team will have learnt a great deal, many positives and some plans that did not work, just some tinkering required.
The brains trust in our car felt that when we beat Wigan last year in match one it was maybe our best performance of the season. Yesterday we won and have a great deal of room for improvment. Looking good so far.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"=#4000BFWhy why why did we run 5 kickable penalties.
Its just not rocket science --- always take the two.
All in all two league points is what we needed : job done
The coaching team will have learnt a great deal, many positives and some plans that did not work, just some tinkering required.
=#800040The brains trust in our car felt that when we beat Wigan last year in match one it was maybe our best performance of the season. Yesterday we won and have a great deal of room for improvment. Looking good so far.'"
=#4000BFBloomin' 'eck - we had 3 hours of this yesterday!
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Why why why did we run 5 kickable penalties.
Its just not rocket science --- always take the two.
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But when we did take a kick DB didn't even get the ball to the sticks! Yes I know it was from distance (at least in a RL perspective) but it was virtually bang in front of the sticks and he should have scored it.
Against stronger teams than Quins I think that we would have taken more kicks for goal, but at this stage in the season against a team we were never behind to during the match I don't have a problem with the number of opportunities that weren't taken.
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| Quote ="RDM"But when we did take a kick DB didn't even get the ball to the sticks! Yes I know it was from distance (at least in a RL perspective) but it was virtually bang in front of the sticks and he should have scored it.
Against stronger teams than Quins I think that we would have taken more kicks for goal, but at this stage in the season against a team we were never behind to during the match[u I don't have a problem with the number of opportunities that weren't taken[/u.'"
I have no problem "running it" we need to gel and gel fast and taking 2 is the wrong option for me at his stage of the season, at some point we'll need to take points on offer but for me we should run it early season.
Yes it did not come off yesterday but we can't get the feel if its on the tee can we.
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| I often come away from games wondering should we of run it here, run it there, taken two here, taken two there....BUT then i ask...we have won the game, so in view of that, were the tactical decisions on the field the correct ones?
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| Absolutly, wins bring confidence, its a start.
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| Smith (and the touch judges) were a joke yesterday if that's the standard of ref this season god help us. Moore being sent off was due to frustration of the decisions. Good win though thought Murphy played well and Brough was there abouts at every tackle. All in all a good start to a long season.
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| Just watched the SL Show it appeared both players used a head butt. First Moore and then LMS
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| Just watched it on slow motion. It appears LMS slaps RM in scrum, then Moore reacts
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| and as the ref runs over LMS headbuts moore
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| 1 game each i reckon.
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| Although there is never a good time to get a ban, I think next week against the Cats is the worst possible time to get one. With the size of their pack we need all the props we can muster, and Moore will be greatly missed.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"Lady next to me complained every time people banged the old feet, it helped keep us all warm at least.
Trin fans at away games are a good bunch.'"
Listened to the second half on radio Leeds, and you could really here our support!!!
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| agreed and this was needless from moore, head butting, could be looking at 3 weeks i reckon.
Quote ="chissitt"Although there is never a good time to get a ban, I think next week against the Cats is the worst possible time to get one. With the size of their pack we need all the props we can muster, and Moore will be greatly missed.'"
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Listened to the second half on radio Leeds, and you could really here our support!!!'"
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| Quote ="chissitt"eusa_think.gif Mmmm I wondered why Bazzo kept saying yer wot on the bus home
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| Quote ="snowie"who's emma
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